I was only making a valid point in that you can't seriously expect to get into Super League on the back of a 38-0 loss at Barrow can you?

I think you should seriously work on putting out a competitive side.

I'm not trying to get anyone wound up here, just making a point that nothing is 100% certain for next season.

TBH apart from kissing the ar*es of the RFL what exactly have Widnes done to merit a License ?

A win in the NRC with players that didn't belong to you, against a Barrow team carrying knocks and with player missing





Oh and a less than average performance in the League over the last few seasons.





You deserve this as your delusions of grandeur on here really P*ss everyone off. Rugby League is a sport that should be measured by on field success - A nice little rented Stadia and having a few supporters more than others shouldn't be a ticket to SL. You win the Title you should get promoted period.

Super League my big fat ars* !

38-0.......dont feel as bad about our shower now - at least we scored and only lost by 2.....hahahahahahahahahaha

Who's going to bite first

the franchise is a shower of C**P...... bring back P&R and earn your spot in SL by winning the GF.....thats were it matters.

Wind your neck in troll.The problem is the wrong players bought or the coaching staff.Next year roles could be reversed.Anyway not many players in the championship are good enough for Superleague.Ste oconnor will buy top aussies once in Superleague.

I agree and the Salary cap higher for the top clubs in the Championship.Be nice if Ste oconnor could buy his way to Superleague.

That's not really the way to do it though is it?

To be honest i dont care.Next year will be a different team as i know a few from Fax and Barrow coming to Widnes.I,Anson a good signing and Tangi Ropati the centre.

The salary cap in the Champ should be higher for those who can afford it...... set it on income.....Widnes would be laughing at the mo

Mick, I think you need to tell us what is the answer ?

Licensing is upon us and we can debate things until we are blue in the face and big up or degrade every other clubs applications.

The criteria are there though and playing performance is only a small part of making that up.

Anyway been bad season for both our teams.Maybe next year eh.

Did he include that idea in Widnes' application ?

You lot say every year that "We bought the wrong players etc etc" It gets boring.

You got whalloped and simply do not deserve a Licence. I'd rather not be able to apply than use the second best route of the NRC !

Halifax deserve the Franchise spot faaaaar more than Widnes as they have consistently performed better than any team in The Championship over the last 2 years.

And where did you get this information from ?

Troll city on here, widnes have the infrastructure to go into super league others don't. Simples.


Long off season ahead......with plenty of comings and goings.

Gary as I have put earlier there are more criteria than playing performance regardless of whether you agree with it or not.

Widnes have done what was needed on playing performance despite some poor years whether that be down to recruitment, injuries or just generally poor form and coaching.

Equally though other clubs are poor in other areas of the application process.

There would be people to argue that Fax werent the most competitive and it possibly highlights the worst aspect of licensing in that we have fans of Championship clubs now almost fixated on developments at each others club and devoting time to either bigging up their own club or degrading another.

I think we are starting to see the roll out of this to the SL clubs and it will only intensify further as we get towards March and the Virtual Terrace goes into franchise meltdown.

That my friend is very true and very sad.

Rugby League is dying........Expansion has proven to be a load of tripe. P&R is the only way to save Rugby League - Not having nice stadia or a few more supporters !

dont forget your SLE limited standard yoof who've battered all in front of them

Whatever else, that performance from Widnes today was simply not acceptable. Completely clueless, no game plan, no ideas in attack and players that simply didn't seem interested or able to do anything about it. We were lucky to get away with 38-0.

Time to draw a line under this season, but I hope we learn some serious lessons from this year. Sadly, I don't think we will without a major change in the coaching department.

It is only a valid point if you are completely, and irredeemably, stupid.

Do you think that this will be the team Widnes puts out in Super League?

Do you not know that we are operating on a £300k cap down here?

Are you under the illusion that we will continue to be on this cap in SL, and not the £1.6 million SL clubs operate on?

A few more fans eh?

Barrow average att for the league season is: 1,753
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Widnes is nearly double yours with 3,020
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You’re right about the ground though, we have that over Barrow too.

How’s Barrow’s academies doing?

Oh, I forgot, you don’t actually run any. Well that’s not good for a SL application is it?

Do Barrow have the kind of top class training facilities Widnes have?

How’s their bank balance?

Do think it’s even worth Barrow bothering to putting a bid in?

It is the general consensus that Widnes will get the nod for Super League, but they truly don't deserve it. RL is a laughing stock. A little piece of my love for our game died when they abolished P&L and it will be another sad day when they relegate a team that doesn't deserve it and promote another one.
Sport should ALWAYS be about how your team performs on the field of play.

Be a waste of the one piece of paper i think. WE ARE BARROW AND SUPERLEAGUE NEEDS A CUMBRIAN SIDE. What else is there than this they have over Widnes, or Halifax for that matter. No matter what teamgoes up, they will dramatically change their team as the salary cap increase by 4 times as much.