Only Widnes fans have posted on the thread so far so no need to remove my friend.

Lets look at Widnes/Fax/Leigh, will give marks out of 10 at the end of each group


[uSponsorship[/u

Widnes - Stobarts

Halifax - Halifax home insurance thingy me bob

Leigh - JR (local pie seller)???

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 7/10
Leigh - 4/10

[uGround[/u

Widnes - Stobart Stadium all seater

Halifax - Half good half bad, once finished will look decent enough

Leigh - Cracking sports Village

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 7/10 (if finished)
Leigh - 9/10

[uSupport[/u

Widnes - average at around 3,800

Halifax - average at around 2,400

Leigh - average at around 1,900

Widnes - 6/10
Halifax - 5/10
Leigh - 4/10

[uChairman[/u

Widnes - Steve O'connor - Millionaire business man who works for a huge company

Halifax - Michael Steele - apologies but dont know anything about him

Leigh - Arthur Thomas - Millionaire??????

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 6/10
Leigh - 6/10

[uYouth setup/scholarship/community[/u

Widnes - Run at all ages and have award winning community programme. 6 home grown in squad

Halifax - No academy at any level but decent community work.

Leigh - Reserve side but no academy or foundation, award winning community work. Numerous home grown in squad


Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 4/10
Leigh - 6/10

[uProfessional club setup/Media prescense[/u

Widnes - Up to date official website, and sky media bitches in Terry Oconnor and Paul King Cullen. Correct people in place at the club.

Halifax - Up to date website, would need to employ more staff in key positions within the club to advance.

Leigh - Not a bad website but can be improved, probably need a couple more key individuals added to the club.


Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 6/10
Leigh - 6/10







[uTotals[/u


Widnes 46
Halifax 35
Leigh 35

I can't say I agree with all your marking but to be honest come 2011 a lot could change and you must realise that.

If Leigh get relagated the gamble of bulding a team from next year will of failed, if we stay up,we will be 100% stronger next year on many fronts.

The French bid will definately be a strong one and Gateshead have a lot of backing.

Widnes are in the box seat but as you know only too well the RFL are anything but fair in whatever they do.

I just wish everyone would enjoy a great League that we are in at present,the speculation about Franchising drives me nuts.

Vikingman - you should be on the selection panel ! A good effort there, nice bit of research and no shocks. Well done - a better "licensee" than Al Murray

even when that stand at fax is finally complete, the shay still could never be classed as a "premier" sporting venue, the seating down the side and both areas behind the sticks lack the basic facilities such as toilets and food outlets etc.

Jesus! Get a room!

It's not Widnes you love, it's vikingman!

He's a quality poster and i respect him enourmously. He's a beacon of light in a dull word. He is a demigod, an apostle, an example to us all on how we should post on here. In fact, if i didn't know any better, i'd say he was Jesus Christ risen again.

My message would be simple in terms of the recent news.

If your ground aint built then you can drop down until it is and then re-apply.

Widnes/Fax/Leigh in

Cas/Wakey/Salford out.



2015

Cas can come back with open arms

The irony is I think most Widnes fans seem to appreciate the Championship more and seem less bothered about being rejected next time.

Of course we all want it but I think because we've been burned and realised that the Championship isn't so bad after all that we're less desperate for it than we were.

Very good assessment there

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The away stand and old seating area do you're right, but 'premier sporting venue' and what the RFL want will all be in the new stand with its directors boxes, lounges etc etc. Plus if we need to spruce up the tolilet in those 2 stands and get an extra food outlet, am sure thats a quick an easy job tbh.

Without trying to be biased, i genuinely think The Shay will be one of the, not best stadiums persay, but most ideal for rugby league a bit like Warrington, but with crap lavs basically haha. It's got 2 good, deep standing areas, a modern all seater stand with everything, and a basic seater stand the other side.

Basically i disagree with you're point to the certain extent it's 'premier' in the eyes of RFL ( i think), however it's clearly lacking in some departments

Well done softlad. At least we can be equal with Halifax on something!!



If Leigh stay up, do the same thing in 12 months time. Your marking may be a little different!

at the minute maybe thats not a bad score...however i do belive that fax are in front of leigh in the licencing!

and =red[size=200WHEN[/size we win the league and the GF these scores will all change!

Winning the league means sod all though.

Even though fax have the best team in the division, reaching GF and the NRC final is something not on their CV.

I'll be honest, If Widnes clean up and win the GF, they are as good as in.

Fax need to reach the GF. They should do it, but we said that last year didn't we?

after reading all of the above there are some very good pointd from halifax and widnes fans.

although you do have a top ground to play in i feel that your ground is over what is needed and that ours when completed may not be as good as yours but still very caperble of hosting super league rugby especially when you compare it to cas and wakey and even salford we all know celtic wont be demoted anyway so it doesnt matter about there ground.

if we win the league for 2 out of the nxt 3 years or even all 3 which isnt beyond us with the base of the squad signed on for the next 2 years anyway.

although we do have to improve our crowdbase over the next couple of years but i think you will find we have had steady improvement all season and if we keep adding 100 or 200 fans on every home match then we can get the crowds up above 3,000 on a consistent basis instead of just against widnes.

although baring all of these things in mind i think we still dont have a chance in my opinion widnes will probably be chossen ahead of us and toulouse are probably a shoe in as well ahead of us just based on location alone.

looks like we could be stuck down in the championship for a while but i couldnt care less with the rugby we are playing

Good idea, a cunning plan methinks.
Will make it good for your players that, no fans.

Your team doesn't do so bad.

There are toilets under the South Stand, you must have missed them there are plenty.
There are some gents toilets for the Skircoat Stand (West Stand) I am not sure about ladies, there may be some not sure not a woman.
The North Stand will have toilets under the end of the new East stand I believe. Currently they put temporary toilets and there is a mobile food outlet, it was there when you used the North stand or didn't you come to that game?
When they use the North Stand, I guess they will do the same for a food outlet or maybe again use the end of the East Stand.
You are wrong my friend.

Funny, I go back to the seventies and eighties and despite you having one of the best clubs then we used to say the same about you.
You at Headingley for the Cup semi Final in 1987?
No as there were not many Widnes fans there either.
What goes around comes around, we have nearly as good away support as you if not better at some grounds.
Sod off pal.

You'll find I'm the one of my teams board.

No you haven't.

How do you know?
We have very good away support ask the fans of other clubs, don't judge us on how many you bring to us and vice versa please.

1 - We've won the NRC. I'd say that the players don't really need to do that much for the next two years now.

2 - I'm sure your players will do themselves proud despite a lack of an away following on Friday.



It was a tongue-in-cheek comment by the way. Not particularly serious, though in theory it would work in our favour. It's just the sad state of RL in the present day.

You just haven't.