Thats why there is no relegation, every one knows how hard it is first season and you already have 4 points, thats not too bad historically for a new team in the league. So keep the faith!!

And if your still bottom after 3 years, you will still be in SDL.

He has to go we are a disgrace playing away and Championship clubs could do better than that scoreline.Robbing our fans the coach and players.

I would just like to add, Eddie hemmings can suck my balls, he was practically jizzing in his pants every one of the unusually large number of times he gave our score updates. What a odious tool.

Here Here poor steve o connors hard work going to pot

Hes from warrington hell love it on Thursday our Eddie

Stick with it. Makes the wins sweeter.

I'm don't normally say sack the coach but the first 18 seconds of this song say's it all for me, youtu.be/dO1PYvloBtk

I'm don't normally say sack the coach but the first 18 seconds of this song say's it all for me, youtu.be/dO1PYvloBtk

Quote ="macs fan"I'm don't normally say sack the coach but the first 18 seconds of this song say's it all for me, youtu.be/dO1PYvloBtk'" Its sunday and Denis still on Board, Love to be in the Boardroom on monday well steve just a few weeks more and were getting there well Denis please do the decent thing

Quote ="macs fan"I'm don't normally say sack the coach but the first 18 seconds of this song say's it all for me, youtu.be/dO1PYvloBtk'" Its sunday and Denis still on Board, Love to be in the Boardroom on monday well steve just a few weeks more and were getting there well Denis please do the decent thing

I am in Lorett de Mar until tuesday and what I saw yesterday isn´t worth thinking about. We took around 300 fans and it was proably worse than the Huddersfield and hull performances. There tries were so simple, it was really like a training session for them. Its all well and good giving an apology on twitter after a hiding but we cant accept it week after week. 58 points agianst Hull, 66 against Hudds 76!!! against Catalans, it really isnt good enough. Most of these players are tied in on 2 and 3 year contracts. We need a coach who is going to organise them and get the best out of them. Our goal line defence is none existant, liturally, when theyre on our line, they will score.

Ive had a really good week in Lorett but I 300 Widnes fans were let down by the club yesterday. I have never said this before but I think they should be ashamed, not just Betts, but these professional players we have.

The championship side weve had probably wouldn´t have been beaten by 76 as incredible as it sounds.

Sort it out Widnes and give the fans an excuse to come to the games and not an excuse as to why to stay away.

You are going through exactly what we at Leigh went through in our one and only venture into SL. Only thing is you have the comfort of none relegation. It will take this season to get really bedded in so don't get too dispondent. Have to say though you have been shopping for players at Asda and not Waitrose. Once you have the full SL payments then you and Mr Oconnor can go out and buy some class. That will be next season so look forward to that. Just be patient.

No new coach will come here with Cullen still here breathing over his shoulder. Simple fact untill Betts and Cullen go we will not advance as a club in super league.

Just think in two weeks we can forget about being twonked in the league and just worry about being twonked in the cup.

This.

From experience.

Does my head in this it really does. What did you expect? I got hooked on RL in the Eighties, long time ago now. Wigan were undefeatable, Widnes were arguably a better side than us. I enjoyed the Boyd v Kurt battles and it got me hooked on the game.But time waits for no man, those days are over.

So fast forward to 2012, and Widnes are back in SL, where they belong IMHO. But, and it’s a big but, you were always going to have to endure at least one season of pain. The only way this will not become two or three is if the town get behind the club and start turning up in numbers. You are giving away tickets left right and centre, yet you are still only getting 5,000 people at a home game. You cannot win anything if you don’t have a paying 10,000+ home attendance, look it up if you don’t believe me. You complain about getting tonked in France, but with only 300 fans travelling you obviously don’t respect your franchise. There does seem to be a two tier system at the moment, the well supported clubs, and those that aren’t.

You can’t blame Betts if the players are poor, he can only work with what he’s got. And until you start turning up in numbers to watch your team, things aren’t going to improve, sorry but that’s the cold hard truth. If I were from Widnes and stumbled across this forum there is no way in a million years I would go to a game. The negativity is astounding, almost as bad as when we played at Widerspool. Go into work tomorrow and tell everyone how crap your team are, then come back on here and complain that you don’t win enough games. Or get behind them, as a work in progress, and spread the word, Widnes are back in SL and with a bit of support may do something.

Disagree 1905 as fans go to see competitveness win or lose.Warringtons attendances be worse if was getting smashed every week.We need to Sack Betts now.

What are you mad 1905 its his squad he's signed these lot for superleague Betts never coached at this level apart from temp wigan job,! I do blame SOC to cause got to start on good footings and was plenty of better coaches out there !

At least your team managed to score

Noble , Kear ...Behave yourselves , we dont want a conveyer belt of coaches nobody else wants.
Its time to lower expectations , enjoy the surprise wins and see where we are at the end of the 1st season.

so your happy with Betts ! look how noble turned wigan round from near bottom to play offs , its not expectations its a professional sport if players can not tackle they shouldnt be playing the sport for one no disrepect Betts signed these players and if he cant get the basic rights he shouldnt be coaching at this level, A good coach would atleast get the basics right TACKLING its not the Losing its how ther losing !

First year in SL, what did you expect? Our first year in the comp we were regularly getting these kinds of hammerings (I remember Burrow passing to another player to score a try when they were both in the in-goal).
The following year we made the CC final.
Yes, you could do a bit less badly if you bought in a bunch of journeymen and played to come 13th, but what is that worth. Develop the squad, develop the side and keep the faith.

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Don't get me wrong I'd be pro coach change as well but these points can't just be ignored. Unfortunately it was clear pretty early we were going to take a few beatings so just put a lot of focus on performing at home and enjoying the wins when they come. We have two more than a lot thought we would just a month ago

I'd say im happier with betts than i have been with any other coach we've had since super league.
Noble was given a blank chequebook at wigan and told to ignore the salary cap , if that was widnes the r.l would probably kick us out , i think the game has changed a lot even in the 10 or so years since nobby was good at bradford. If it was say Graham murray or a top aussie coach in the pipeline i'd say go for it but Nobby et al , no thanks stick with betts for now. I believe he will get the basics better covered in a couple of months , and he has signed better players than ive seen at widnes for a good few years.

Dennis Bettts' record is diabolical compared to every other coach we've had since then.


What about what Nobby did with the Crusaders?

He took them over in mid October 2009, long after most players had been snapped up. They were even further behind the 8 ball than we were, but he managed to put together a team, that was not only competitive, but actually finished in the top 8. I'm sorry, but Betts can't hold a candle to the man.

Im with you on this one pepe

ask the squad who theyd prefair bet 90% would say nobby and possibly others would prefair betts cause they know they wouldnt be there if nobby was there any way