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| Quote ="brearley84"announcing another signing while they are playing for another club again....
bit like the kev brown saga last season... trying to unsteady the ship again?'"
I appreciate you are frustrated but this is not about unsteadying anyone.
The fact is fans of all clubs get frustrated when they don't hear any progress being made. Our club is making sure fans know the team is being built for next season, otherwise it breeds anxiety and people don't feel confident in the team.
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| Do Hull get a fee? Was he not OOC?
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| OOC at thend of this season so no fee. Hard as nails Ticks, been a great signing for us and his goal kicking conversion rate is top class too.
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| Quote ="brearley84"announcing another signing while they are playing for another club again....
bit like the kev brown saga last season... trying to unsteady the ship again?'"
They would only announce it if both parties were in agreement wouldn't they.
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| Brilliant news! Really happy that we've signed such a quality player.
[urlhttp://www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=11566[/url
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| Well its been a long time coming, as many of us thought we had got him for this season, until it became apparent that we couldn't agree a fee with Hull. So the speculation has been there since this time last year that he would sign for us from 2014!
Yes there is a worry that he has missed a lot of games through injury in 2012 and 2013, but as we know ourselves from the past two seasons any player can get injured at any time!
A fit Danny Tickle will be a great asset to us for 2014. A couple more signings of his calibre and things will be looking really good.
Be nice if we could announce the futures of our remaining out of contract players, particularly Phelps and Winterstein, so we can start to see what sort of squad we are going to have.
As stated in another thread I think everyone is assuming that Briscoe and Davies wont be being offered new deals with us and we know Cross is hanging up his boots add to that the departure of Hock and that should allow scope for some more arrivals of decent quality!
The only other bit of signing speculation I had read related to a winger (Scott Armstrong) who has just been released by Northampton, got to say he seems an unlikely signing.
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Quote ="WirralViking"Well its been a long time coming, as many of us thought we had got him for this season, until it became apparent that we couldn't agree a fee with Hull. So the speculation has been there since this time last year that he would sign for us from 2014!
Yes there is a worry that he has missed a lot of games through injury in 2012 and 2013, but as we know ourselves from the past two seasons any player can get injured at any time!
A fit Danny Tickle will be a great asset to us for 2014. A couple more signings of his calibre and things will be looking really good.
Be nice if we could announce the futures of our remaining out of contract players, particularly Phelps and Winterstein, so we can start to see what sort of squad we are going to have.
As stated in another thread I think everyone is assuming that Briscoe and Davies wont be being offered new deals with us and we know Cross is hanging up his boots add to that the departure of Hock and that should allow scope for some more arrivals of decent quality!
The only other bit of signing speculation I had read related to a winger (Scott Armstrong) who has just been released by Northampton, got to say he seems an unlikely signing.'"
Sorry hadn't spotted that Ben Davies has been released!
www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=11577
So he definitely wont be with us next season!
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Quote ="WirralViking"Well its been a long time coming, as many of us thought we had got him for this season, until it became apparent that we couldn't agree a fee with Hull. So the speculation has been there since this time last year that he would sign for us from 2014!
Yes there is a worry that he has missed a lot of games through injury in 2012 and 2013, but as we know ourselves from the past two seasons any player can get injured at any time!
A fit Danny Tickle will be a great asset to us for 2014. A couple more signings of his calibre and things will be looking really good.
Be nice if we could announce the futures of our remaining out of contract players, particularly Phelps and Winterstein, so we can start to see what sort of squad we are going to have.
As stated in another thread I think everyone is assuming that Briscoe and Davies wont be being offered new deals with us and we know Cross is hanging up his boots add to that the departure of Hock and that should allow scope for some more arrivals of decent quality!
The only other bit of signing speculation I had read related to a winger (Scott Armstrong) who has just been released by Northampton, got to say he seems an unlikely signing.'"
Sorry hadn't spotted that Ben Davies has been released!
www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=11577
So he definitely wont be with us next season!
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| Yeah Tickle is a good signing if we can get or keep him fit. But we are desperate for a go forward prop, and after witnessing Pickersgil's woeful performance last week the sooner rather than later.
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| I'm sure a prop will be on the agenda given Ben cross is retiring, I would be looking at Gareth Carvell.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"I'm sure a prop will be on the agenda given Ben cross is retiring, I would be looking at Gareth Carvell.'"
Sorry VM, Carvell is one other name that has been mentioned as a potential signing for 2014. Warrington's strategy of signing up all their senior players for this season backfired in terms of accumulated injuries, so I wonder if they will be looking for an injection of "new blood" which might mean Carvell could be available! He would certainly add a load of experience following Cross' departure.
Technically we will be down two props with Davies having been released, but since he hasn't had any first team game time (I don't think?) his absence wont be so acutely felt. A shame really as I think he had a fair bit of potential, but I guess he didn't apply himself as well as DB wanted him to.
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| Quote ="brearley84"announcing another signing while they are playing for another club again....
bit like the kev brown saga last season... trying to unsteady the ship again?'"
Not sure what Anthony Mullally has got to do with this debate
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| Bit of a plodder with no offload, but decent close to the line and can win games with his kicking alone.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Bit of a plodder with no offload, but decent close to the line and can win games with his kicking alone.'"
You need a plodder who keeps possession too in a team.Better than losing it on the first tackle.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Bit of a plodder with no offload, but decent close to the line and can win games with his kicking alone.'"
Genuinely we are one of (if not) the worst side at converting territory on the line into points and Jack Owens aside a bit sloppy with the boot so that sounds fabulous to me
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| Quote ="WirralViking"......
........Technically we will be down two props with Davies having been released, ......'"
Pickersgill, O'Carroll, Kavanagh and Gerrard = 4?
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| Quote ="rs"Not sure what Anthony Mullally has got to do with this debate
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wasnt he plying his trade in the championship at the time after you told him to get lost for not signing a new contract, so he wasnt actually playing for you at the time.
bit like the elliot whitehead saga at bradford now
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| Quote ="brearley84"wasnt he plying his trade in the championship at the time after you told him to get lost for not signing a new contract, so he wasnt actually playing for you at the time.
bit like the elliot whitehead saga at bradford now'"
Come on no Hudds fab can lecture ANY club on player deals. How long ago was it you approached an under contract Kopczack? Wakey lads? Ferres / Brough you went in for mid season!!!
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| I am sorry he is going, tremendous goalkicker.
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| Quote ="J20"Come on no Hudds fab can lecture ANY club on player deals. How long ago was it you approached an under contract Kopczack? Wakey lads? Ferres / Brough you went in for mid season!!!'"
but brough and ferres actually joined us there and then not the following season, get it?
kopzcak saga was a long one and giants found not guilty. He just didnt want to sign the TUPE contract with bradford and cant blame him.
ferguson (wakey lad) was sold by the administrators....then played for us straight away.
murphy (wakey lad) signed off season
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| So you did approach all those players before they where officially available? What's more disruptive losing a player mid-season or keeping them until the end? Official or not the player still knows in his head for crying out loud.
Not unprofessional at all. Your club doesn't want us to announce. We don't announce.
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| Quote ="brearley84"but brough and ferres actually joined us there and then not the following season, get it?
kopzcak saga was a long one and giants found not guilty. He just didnt want to sign the TUPE contract with bradford and cant blame him.
ferguson (wakey lad) was sold by the administrators....then played for us straight away.
murphy (wakey lad) signed off season
unprofessional from widnes yet again.'"
How can it be unprofessional?, if Huddersfield were not willing to let Widnes announce the Brown signing then surely the wouldn't have allowed it to happen.
Seems you are making excuses for your poor mid season slump. If anything unsettled your club it was St Helen's announcing the signing of your coach.
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| Quote ="brearley84"but brough and ferres actually joined us there and then not the following season, get it?
kopzcak saga was a long one and giants found not guilty. He just didnt want to sign the TUPE contract with bradford and cant blame him.
ferguson (wakey lad) was sold by the administrators....then played for us straight away.
murphy (wakey lad) signed off season
unprofessional from widnes yet again.'"
To be fair it was fairly obvious from an early stage Danny wanted to return to Lancs. He will not let Hull down whilst he is here and he has gone about the deal in the correct manner I.M.O.
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| Ticks is far from 'just a plodder' he got into the England team based on his performances in the right second row channel for Hull and deservedly so. Runs good lines and plays long minutes when required. No more susceptible to injury than anyone else - he did his bicep last year then came back too early for us in the play offs to try and help our cause and did the same again - shouldn't have played but that's typical of his effort and commitment. Was having a blinder this year in the game where he got injured (leg I think). He's looked after himself and will give you great service for the next few years just like the previous seven he's given to Hull.
Everyone knows what a superb goal kicker he is but that's an added bonus over and above him being one of the top second rowers in SL. I'll certainly miss watching him play for us.
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| Quote ="brearley84"but brough and ferres actually joined us there and then not the following season, get it?
kopzcak saga was a long one and giants found not guilty. He just didnt want to sign the TUPE contract with bradford and cant blame him.
ferguson (wakey lad) was sold by the administrators....then played for us straight away.
murphy (wakey lad) signed off season
unprofessional from widnes yet again.'"
Listen you tart.
Stop whinging. Your club does not have clean hands on this. No club does. Announcements like these are made every season for a pretty good reason which I've spelled out and you ignored. Our club has done it, your club has.
Your club poached brough and ferres mid season, how destabalising is that compared to signing a player to play for you next year? Give over.
Stop crying. The mood of the Hull FC fans on this has been rather good on the whole. They knew he was going, they've wished him well, we know he is coming, and everyone is happy. So go away and listen to the smiths in a dark room you big cry baby.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"ANOTHER ex-wiganer
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So?
I can think of Bobby Chisnall, Stuart Wright, Doug Laughton to name but three crowd favourites.
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