When they pick the best Champ club to get the guaranteed place it will!

i don't think Fax expect anything from the Franchise bid. But as part of the big RFL charade of licensing at least the RFL will now get 2 eligible (english) applicants to [ichoose[/i from!!

It will count when they are compared to each other. We are competing against each other for that licence, don’t forget. In order to separate clubs who make the cut on the same issue, the quality of each area of the bid is important. It’s not just about ticking boxes but also the quality of those ticks.

Ticking the boxes just gives you a chance place the bid, the standard of each box ticked is what really counts.

Fax may well have a better quality ‘player strength’ tick, for instance.

with all due respect, thats such a mind blowing surge of misinformed gravey it almost does not deserve a direct response.
We didnt do anything, our previous chairman who is a crook and has since been convicted of seriously dodgy financial dealings was the one who almost went bust. and also took Chester city FC to the grave i might add. we had TWO loan players in the NRC final last season. And we DO NOT rely on a wealthy backer. i can say with certainty that SoC (having seen a summary of last years accounts) has not put any money in purely to keep the club ticking over on a day to day basis. he paid the agreed sum for the club and the agreed sum to wipe out the old regimes debts, and invested in youth development. widnes have worked purely within predetermined budgets, using REAL revenue to cover these budgets. im sick to death of people making out like widnes would go bust in a flash if our wealthy backer went elsewhere. its just not true. we made a small loss last year, and that was after paying of the old regimes debts and investing heavily in the youth system. nobody else in this league has books half as good as ours, and thats without being 'Propped up' by our chairman. as many of our rivals seem to think.

Does that mean you might not achieve the £1m turnover figure then?

Who's more likely to, Widnes or Halifax?

Here's me thinking few weeks back Fax fans saying struggling to keep going and loss of cup revenue a massive blow, yet now there better placed for SL? Hmmm.

we already have met it, its been confirmed by both SOC and the ex ceo in interviews (although i've not heard the interviews first hand)

Perhaps we borrowed their chairman’s dodgy calculator?

I would love to see the figures to back that up. I would be very surprised if any Championship team is any where near 1M turnover.

actually we fell just short last year, and have many new sponsioship deals this year. so im sure you will see figures soon.

And you can include money for charitable trusts to it for franchise purposes, which would prob have put last years figure over 1 mill!

We were only £30,000k short last time and we've had no freebies. Plus the charity funds have gone up and the shop is booming and selling all kinds of merchandise. Everywhere you go in Widnes these days you see branded Vikings merchandise. I think my contribution alone has gone some way to making up the extra £30,000k.

btw pepe is that dave grohl wearing a widnes jersey?

But crowds are down...all adds up. Well fingers crossed eh/

Less freebies. Everyone paying. Some games were free to all last season. It all adds up.



If not, we can just borrow your club's calculator.

Thought that was just one game?

We had offers on for the Toulouse and gateshead games (both 5,000+) and i think we had a free cup game or two as well.

I'd worry about competing against SL sides more than us as it's a no contest tbh!

I've taken some time to try and decide whether what Fax has done was a good or a bad thing. I admit that I did question whether it was all that bad when you consider the 'criteria' that was laid out. Are Fax simply playing the system?
However when you consider the fact that their chairman was the one that first mentioned this 2,500 figure some time ago and that they have done next to nothing, it would seem, to increase crowds then I think it is actually not too far off cheating.
There isn't too much of a pretence on the Fax board that the figure announced was way off the actual attendance. Is this then any less of a rule break than a salary cap infringement? I'm beginning to lean towards the side of it being no different.
Clubs break the salary cap to win an unfair advantage and that is what Fax have done. I did expect the same from Leigh but I have to hand it to them that they played fairly and announced that they were short even though the repercussions of that decision could be large.
The justification for this rule break is being given that Fax wanted to stick two fingers up at the RFL. I think the reality is very different from that and they have played right into their hands.
The RFL are now in a position to trumpet about the good crowds in the championship and swat away complaints of a stagnating competition under franchising.. the blame can be placed firmly at the door of Fax for otherwise achieving poor crowds. Next time around the RFL can place the same minimum criteria down under the 'pretence' that Fax have managed to achieve that figure once and so should be able to achieve it on a regular basis if they tried.
Yep... if you ask me Fax have played an absolute blinder

Could be right there Chris! For 2015 they may ask for 3,500 and say to Fax, well you massively beat that in a normal league game against Batley?

It was the last home game of the Season, It was packed out, Batley Brought way more than normal, Fax gave away tons of tickets at the Agricultural show the day before, everyone was bringing family and friends, Yes, Fax are on a high and this in turn gets the fans following, As a Town, we always come together when the club needs us, thats football included. Sour Grapes Mother Bitches !!!! All i say is go on and prove it. I was there and It was defo more than 3500 more than that i will just have to believe the RFL for their Published Attendace record !!!

Listen laddo...
The majority of the doubt has come from the reaction of your own fans. I'm not saying that no-one would have bothered had they all come out and said that it was all kosher, but the vast majority didn't. On the thread on your own board there are enough little sarcastic winks and stories of tickets that were handed out and being counted even if the recipient didn't attend the game for there to be suspicion.
Like I said... this is tantamount to pretending you are going to be in a new stadium when you blatantly know you are not. There may well have been more than 3,500 (1,000 up on your normal crowd figures) but the doubt is that there were over 4,700 there and I reiterate that a large amount of doubt has come from your own fans who are happy that the club has 'cheated' the RFL.

WHY. ARE. YOU. SO. BOTHERED?


You wanna calm down chris b you'll giving yourself a coronary, then widnes' attendance will even less than fax's!!!!!

Besides, you're boring the living daylights out of everyone

Why would debating Halifax's fudging of crowd figures give him a coronary. I want to see how your remaining board members are going to fabricate the existence of a full youth set up.