Like i said before, Cullen, Terry o'connor and betts need removing. Get a coach in with experience and let him do the recruiting. Be grateful that Halifax are slightly crapper than widnes.

Embarrassing.com

And no I didnt go today, the score says it all.

How is it these guys fault?

The recruitment for the last 3 to 4 years has been pathetic, director of rugby is pointless and we sign an inexperienced coach Who is hopeless. Terry o'connor has already sounded out most of next years signings which again makes me sigh. The players on the pitch will never get sacked but we can hold the people responsible for signing them in the first place.

One coach one person who does the recruiting.

TOC has been in charge of recruitment and advising SOC since he has been at the club. Cullen has continued with the poor recruitment policy, along with TOC and both have failed disastrously. Both should be shipped out the moment a new coach comes in.

If we carry on with these people we could end up being relegated. Plus, if they cannot cope in this league, how on earth can they be trusted in Super League?

We should bring in a new coach, who recruits the players which he wants and doesn’t have someone above him telling him who he is getting. I have defended TOC over the years, but is has become clear, over the last few weeks, that he has had far more say than his credentials should have allowed. He is not an experienced player talent scout and has no business advising on coaches. Hopefully SOC now realizes this and shows him the door.

Swap you Betts for Calland?

No thanks, we need experience.

I'll go for nobby or millward.

player's
Agreed, he is a Player's Agent is he not? Why do you think we are getting so many crap players, just as we did when Happy Frank was in charge.

Like I've said before... TOC isn't responsible for saying yay or nay to signings. He is the main contact point and he does the negotiating of contracts at this level. PC is the key man responsible for this year and for last year also. He will also be responsible in part for next year too alongside the new coach. There is the possibility that because we didn't have a coach appointed heading into this season then maybe TOC was more involved than he should have been that was more a case of as the situation dictates.

FWIW... I think the squad is alright and could perform a lot better than it is doing and my questions are firmly with the coaching staff.
New coach for next year and one with a decent reputation.

We need a new coach now not next year, another crap season will do nothing for confidence or club image if we continue to take hammerings.

You know why that is though. Theres been no real need to recruit a decent team.

Don't start that, your completely wrong.

Nah, just incompetent coaching staff making bad decisions all-round.

Touchy.

Least you lot aren't 'P - 4 L - 4'

all i can really say is, it makes me cry

but at least my real viking drinking horn arrived yesterday

a proper horn, from norway, with a leather carry strap and everything

im going to drink meade from it on match days starting next season

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the roles of TOC and Cullen were merged into one in the near future with the odd man out being made 'redundant'.
No doubt Halifax' first win of the season will be handed to them on a plate next week.
The whole SL licence euphoria has been totally deflated.We should be riding the crest of a wave at the moment,winning games,building momentum,spreading the feel good factor throughout the town and wooing back the lapsed fans.But no,mediocrity is the order of the day.

Well that should improve things on the pitch then

How did Logan Tomkins and Crosby go for you guy's today?

not very well. judging by the scoreline

They went ok, Crosby had to go off after playing about 15 mins after being involved in a heavy challenge - nothng too bad but looked like he didn't know where he was for a while and he didn't come back on. Tomkins looked very busy in the 1st half, but were we under that much pressure in the 2nd half, no-one stood out.

We were that bad / ineffective, I don't think we had one single scoring chance in the 2nd half. We have a pack with no power, half backs with no creativity, the discipline is shocking and tackling from a lot of players is non existant. There's no spark from the team, no leadership or direction. Were playing one man, forward dominated rugby even though we're losing the forward battle. Even when we were well behind on the scoreboard, we were just trundling up the middle of the pitch.

There's no way Batley would have dared to put in performances like we have been doing recently - Karl Harrison would have tore them a new bumhole.

I thought young Tompkins looked pretty good. Batley targeted him all day and he didn't miss a tackle.

That Leuilui is an absolutely terrible player and Heckinburg looked hopelessly out of shape.

Much appreciated fella's.

Tomkins a lot quiker at the ptb than what we've been used too

Surely with the such superb academy set up you have,that was your "kingpin" in getting your franchise! you shouldnt need to be doing to much recruiting??

Someones starting to get nervous

tbh I'm surprised Salford know what an academy is. How are all your superstar long time ex NRL signings going this season?

Forget them,jodie broughton is doing fine thanks(certainly better than the a certain ste tyrer could manage at super league level!)owe and second leading try scorer in s/l!!!stef ratchford isnt doing to bad this season either!ashley gibson scored a nice hat-trick for us at the weekend too in our hammering of the bulls(ohh while u were getting taught a lesson of the mighty batley!)..you lot seriously need to wake up on the pitch and prove you are worthy of your place in s/l with a bit of merit!!just like we did winning everything available!