news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 158548.stm Sounds like all the wheels are turning and we are moving in the right direction. I think the attitude of Steve will be key to our application next time. He has danced to the RFL's tune since the last application and I guess we have to try and just be confident that we have the best application outside of SL.. and maybe a better bet than some of those in it! C'mon Widnes..

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 158548.stm Sounds like all the wheels are turning and we are moving in the right direction. I think the attitude of Steve will be key to our application next time. He has danced to the RFL's tune since the last application and I guess we have to try and just be confident that we have the best application outside of SL.. and maybe a better bet than some of those in it! C'mon Widnes..

Saw the interview and he stated that one of the reasons we didn't get a licence was because our youth development wasn't good enough, i presume that's because we lost a lot of the youth players we had in 2007 had left when the club went bang.

He also stated that they are making sure that the next licence application would tick every box.

i guess he's just saying what Bull shi^ the RFL came out with to keep them happy! Aye Youth Development not good enough? Says a lot for some other sides! Surely even those lost have to count as we 'developed' them! Nash, Sidlow, Myler to name 3!

You didn't get the license last time round because it was too soon after administration - even though your house had been put in order by Steve O. I guess it just wouldn't have looked right would it? Club goes bust and within months, gets admitted to Super League. It was too unpallatable for the RFL. No excuses next time though. Barring similar disasters you're a shoe in and the calm and measured responses to the license failure from your Chairman was professional and non-controversial (unlike Leigh's

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Don't forget us little people left in the Championship though will you. Loan players, friendly matches etc .......

What will Fingerpost do in 2012? If Saints are at KR, he won't have to swap ends

Hope your right Ritch! Think that’s what SO’C is basically saying, all we have to do now is stay financially viable and should be laughing, prob why all going part time next year, just to protect from a sudden other economic downturn!

I don’t blame Leigh guy for coming out, he had a point didn’t he! Cru beat Leigh in No aspects other than position of club geographically so why wheren’t Leigh in?
Why where Leigh judged on Hilton Park and not LSV, whereas even in RFL’s own lowdown the likes of Salford / Wakey / Saints and Cru had mention of new grounds… LEIGH’S WAS BUILT!

TBH, It’s best not to get into it really isn’t

I was shocked to find out that the person who gave that statement is still at the club giving statements.

Steve O was very professional even when the BBC tried to provoke him with the Celtic question.

Where have you heard we're going part time? News to me. I would suggest the fact that we only have 8 full time players means that Steve O has been very careful financially from the start of this year.

Leigh didn't beat them on the criteria. Their application was very unprofessional.

Quote ="Maximus Decimus"Where have you heard we're going part time? News to me. I would suggest the fact that we only have 8 full time players means that Steve O has been very careful financially from the start of this year. Leigh didn't beat them on the criteria. Their application was very unprofessional.'" Was it ? You have seen it ? Would seem strange given it was prepared by these lot at considerable cost Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Major international accounting and consulting firm. www.deloitte.com/ -

Quote ="Maximus Decimus"Where have you heard we're going part time? News to me. I would suggest the fact that we only have 8 full time players means that Steve O has been very careful financially from the start of this year. Leigh didn't beat them on the criteria. Their application was very unprofessional.'" Was it ? You have seen it ? Would seem strange given it was prepared by these lot at considerable cost Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Major international accounting and consulting firm. www.deloitte.com/ -

Well considering he is our CEO he would be

Your Mr O Connor congratulated him on having the ' balls ' to speak out

Too many ' brown noses ' in RL , that's why we have what we have , a split sport

whats youth development got to do with anything. SL clubs buy aussies or poach from NL clubs.

You will get in next time if you can remain solvent.

Given your boss is a very shrewd man, I would think you will be better off having missed out in the first round of Licences and arrrive in SL in much better condition that Salford or Celtic have this year.

I was suprised that Salford got the nod ahead of you, but I will be stunned of 2lose get in ahead of you next time around.

Celtic would seem to be having a PSG type of event and they will be in massive trouble should LS get bored. This should be a warning to the RFL that London apart, you can't expect to plant a team in a non RL region and expect decent players (Australian or otherwise) to move there. We spent 10 years with a team full of crims and the only reason we could attract them was LONDON....somehow, Bridgend isn't as appealing. It has taken us a long time to attract players of decent quality to the south, but now the likes of Orr and Purdham are saying how great it is down here, others may follow.

As I said above, if you don't get into SL next time around I will be stunned.

I'd say if Toulouse continue their development they'd be more worthy of a franchise than Celtic were. They're already one of the top supported clubs in the league.

I think a heartland club will be dumped in favour of Toulouse, I just hope Widnes get in there too.

Well, you tick the stadium box, without having to build one out of origami

You contribute to the comp (mainly by providing players for other clubs to poach), your community team (IIRC) recently won an award and you have a steady fan base. I really think that if the RFL are going to promote 1 club, it should be you, but if it's 2.....you are sure to get in.

Steve is a very astute businessman, and he has brought an extremely professional approach to the club. With him at the helm I can see us getting a license next time round.

Sure it came out when Cullen was on about no-one getting to training etc, said basically we all train together so part time is best for everyone IIRC! Plus it would save us money which can only be a good thing! No-one else in this division runs as many full time contracts so doubt players would walk away aswell!

Quote ="Starbug" Was it ? You have seen it ? Would seem strange given it was prepared by these lot at considerable cost Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Major international accounting and consulting firm. www.deloitte.com/ -'" I saw the presentation (on youtube I think) before it was taken down and it was very poorly done. A teenage school project would have been better. As for Allan Rowley, he came out with a statement that was universally condemned by almost the whole of Rugby League and embarrassed the club of Leigh. Most people see him as indicative of how unprofessional Leigh are. He might be a nice bloke but he should have left the club. He is hampering any chance you could possibly have of applying for Super League.

Quote ="Starbug" Was it ? You have seen it ? Would seem strange given it was prepared by these lot at considerable cost Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Major international accounting and consulting firm. www.deloitte.com/ -'" I saw the presentation (on youtube I think) before it was taken down and it was very poorly done. A teenage school project would have been better. As for Allan Rowley, he came out with a statement that was universally condemned by almost the whole of Rugby League and embarrassed the club of Leigh. Most people see him as indicative of how unprofessional Leigh are. He might be a nice bloke but he should have left the club. He is hampering any chance you could possibly have of applying for Super League.

You are talking a load of crap.

The presentation was as good as any and was very well received.

Alan only said what everyone including the vast majority of RL fans from Widnes thought but he had the guts to say it, unprofessional possibly but when has it been a crime to stand up and be counted.

If brown nosing gets you into SL, your club is doing a great job,with half the Sky team on your side and a former chum as your coach, you are half way their

And where would you rather be?

Diplomacy is an art my friend, Leigh could have done with some at the time of the announcements.

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seriously...I believe there is a place at the top table available to many teams outside SL and just because you're not there now, doesn't mean you wont get there. But...rants like the one from your representatives when you didn't get a place HE THOUGHT you deserved will not do you any favours in future Licencing rounds.
Rather than bitching about Celtic (or us or the frog), I would think there were targets nearer to home that should be looked at. Those clubs with oragami stadiums (they look good on paper) and other failings are more likely to fall that Catalan (good crowds, good results) Quins RL (b4stard child of the RFL and SKY) and Celtic (Like they will admit they made a mistake). There are at least 3 clubs in the same "c" bracket as us that have yet to deliver on the biggest promise......stadia and you have one that is spot on.

We had one last time

Problem is the RFL promised that all criteria would be fairly judged so when you are stood in front of a 95 % completed stadium with 6 months before a ball is kicked and they refuse to let it be part of your application it is understandable that people are not too happy

Doubt very much Alan's outburst will make any difference to us getting back into SL

That will only happen if somebody goes tits up financially

So you think that a press conference to answer questions was the sum total of clubs applications for SL

Idiot

I dont remember seeing anybody condemn him except a few fans on here , mostly fans of clubs that had got a franchise , in fact the vast majority of fans of the clubs that missed out were in support of what he said , especially Widnes fans

As I said your Mr O Connor rang him to congratulate him on having the balls to stand up for what he and many of your fans believed , I have no doubt that had Widnes got the spot Alan would have congratulaed them

Where did he say that then? He said he saw your presentation, he didn't say it was the sum total of your application. But it certainly speaks volumes when the details of your club's assets were presented so poorly.

The application like everybody else's was a document , I doubt the RFL even saw the press conference outlining the details of the bid to the local press

The RFL dont want us , never will , hopefully they are not stupid enough to deny you