''He also stated if Dennis was dismissed and a new coach was brought in he would have to work with the same group of players and the chances were nothing may change. As there is no more money for new players this season''.


So why was Ste McCormack sacked?That's the chance you take on a change of coach unless you want to take a chance the other way and risk more and more humiliation with fewer and fewer people attending.If every chairman followed that philosophy there would never be changes. Graeme West would still be Widnes coach,Billy Benyon at Saints,Tony Barrow at Wire and Graeme Taylor in charge of the England football team.I am not sure from who or where this figure of 7000 came from either,we only averaged 6600 over four years last time in SL and the club have said the players are crap and not what was wanted so obviously they expected to struggle so why disappointment at the support?A head chef wouldn't dish up lousy food and still expect the restaurant to be full..

Spot on, Chief!

I think you will find that simply isn't the case and complete bull is being spouted here.

A players representative is not permitted to speak about any matters concerning his player to any other club unless permitted to do so by the club he is currently under contract with. Regardless of whether it is the player's agent or the player themselves that do this before that permission is given or the free-agent deadline passes this constitutes tapping up for which there are severe penalties including fines.
Even an indirect inducement through the media can be construed as 'tapping up'. So all this... so and so can speak to so and so nonsense is complete bull. If Widnes have not given their permission then they have a right to seek compensation. Compensation is due anyhow due to the age of the player.

Afraid it is the case. The agent as a rep of the player can indicate the duration of a contract. and a club can say they would be interested in players when their contract expires. Unless there is a clause in the contract to the contrary then players , like many people, are free to tell others what they earn. Deny it as much as you like.

If Cullen and Betts do not know who is OOC in 2013 Widnes are pretty well doomed.

Oh my god!!!! you genuinely believe this!!!





That is too funny!!!!

Whilst a player remains under contract with a club even when they are in the last year of their contract unless given specific permission by the players current club the players representative has absolutely no rights to discuss any matters concerning a player. Now between clubs, there might be dialogue about which players are out of contract at the end of the season. Leeds gave us permission to speak to a couple last March / April and we could then approach those player's agents but under no other circumstances should a club be approaching players or their agents directly ahead of the deadline.
If a player and their club agree to publicising the length of a contract then fine, but even under those circumstances any club approaching Mull or his agent now to indicate their interest without the clubs permission would be 'tapping up'. That is the way of it.


I'll deny it, because you have made this up and are talking absolute bull!! Tell me who is doing this now? We'll let the RFL know and see what they have to say on the matter. Come on, if you know Hudds have approached Mulls agent now without permission from Widnes tell us, let's drop the RFL an email.. if you are right, nothing happens? What do you say over there in the land of made up rules!!

I would say that Willie Manu has been tapped up