im not knocking Betts but i think you need a coach who will get you doing the basics right and stop u letting so many points in, as early people have said the prob with getting hammered every week fans tend to stop attending games, im sure it will be a different story saturday cant see it being as one sided as people think

I'm a Saints fan mate. I live in St.Helens. I'm not bothered about Fev.
The Fev-Cas game was televised too and like Saints & Widnes was a big derby game.
I want a strong Widnes team in SL, it's another potentially great derby game for us. I remember when the fixture used to pack out. The only way they can build is if the fans turn up, and they can then spend that money on better players next year and the year after.

I guarantee you that the Super League fixture will be at least double this, possibly even 3 times bigger if we have a competitive side by then.

You can't compare a Challenge Cup game on National TV with previous times when it was packed out.

Maybe the Fev fans had a stay-a-way protest for pretty much the whole time we were in the Championship Pepe!

Was it a protest???



Only in the minds of certain individuals. There was nothing arranged about it.
People simply decided that
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they just didn't want to pay the money and make the effort.

The attendances will improve again in the league and hopefully a few who haven't been will have been encouraged by that display and turn up for future games.

I agree, there was nothing organised. I have no doubt that many didn't go because of the other sporting events taking place that day etc...

The last point, you mention, is the clincher for me. If we were playing reasonably well and hadn't had that absolute shocker agin Bradford, or suffered 4 years of dross leading up to it, there would have been at least another 1,000 - 1,500 Widnes fans at that game - even with all the circumstances surrounding that day. Many people on the TIW said that they had had enough and wasn't prepared to pay good money to watch such a poor team get battered, and that was, in no small part, a reaction to the continued presence of the coaching staff and the tolerance of said coaching staff by SOC. Fans voted with their feet, Chris. There are even fans now saying that they will retain their VSH memberships but not turn up any more until the current coach has gone. I have no doubt that the majority of fans voting with their feet on Saturday was indeed a protest - no doubt at all.