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| Quote ="Andy R"Personal insults...didn't think it would be long'"
You should be used to it, with your apparent lack of intellect and being from a hole, I was going to start calling you Damo!
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| Quote ="SirStan"I can't believe I'm on here defending Hull fans from anything, but what's right is right and you are talking out your Iestyn pal. As soon as Manu reacted I knew something had gone off, he's just not the type to kick off. The replay merely confirmed it, it was underhand and bang out of order. Ablett is a lucky boy, lucky that GH really does run the RFL (as pointed out by Mr Pearson).'"
Yes, clearly you're right. Gary hetherington runs the RFL. What a well considered response.
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| Quote ="Andy R"Yes, clearly you're right. Gary hetherington runs the RFL. What a well considered response.'"
Can't fault any of that. You see, when you really try, you can be observant.
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| Great to see the RFL have got it right in this case if abbo wanted to really gauge manu he would have done! end of! he was grabbing out no intent was there at all
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| Quote ="Andy R"So by your reckoning...
Every hand grabbing the face is an attempt to gouge eyes.
Therefore:
Every high tackle is an attempt to knock someone out.
Every late challenge is an attempt to permanently injure someone.
Every tackle above the horizontal is an attempt to break someone's neck.
There is no evidence and you're seeing something which as much as you hate to admit it, just isn't there.
Yes, I understand Manu's reaction. Totally. But if every time a rugby player reacted badly to something they perceived had happened a 10 game ban was given out, then no one would be playing'"
It was a hand grab [iand[/i rake to the face
if someone caught someone in a high tackle, [iand then[/i ragged them up and/or down, that's very dangerous, and could break a neck.
if a late challenge is late [iand[/i the person gets absolutely buried, that's very dangerous and could cause serious damage.
It was a bad gesture, made worse by the rake, which could have caused Manu a lot of discomfort, and by the looks of his reaction it did.
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| Quote ="Andy R"The difference being, he made no contact with the eyes'"
I'll say it again, Andy R, for the hard of thinking:
"SAYS WHO?"
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| The RFL have yet again been less then even with decisions, they make it very easy for many people to believe that they are inept, unprofessional and not capable of running a booze up in a brewery.
Time to move on ...............
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I'll say it again, Andy R, for the hard of thinking:
"SAYS WHO?"'"
I didn't answer as I thought it was fairly obvious but if you need it explaining:
1) The RFL disciplinary
2) The cameras
Look closer and tell me at any moment do you see Ablett's fingers in Manu's eyes?
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| Quote ="Andy R"I didn't answer as I thought it was fairly obvious but if you need it explaining:
1) The RFL disciplinary
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[size=150Look closer and tell me at any moment do you see Ablett's fingers in Manu's eyes?'" [/size
You look at the Sky footage and replay it frame by frame and you WILL SEE Ablett's 3rd finger right hand in the corner of Manu's left eye.
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| have seen it 2 or 3 times and it doesnt look good at all,
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| KeefSenior4 just tweeted:
Leeds Rhinos join forces with Apple to release the controversial iGouge #rugbyleague
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| The only surprise is that some seem surprised. Clearly, we've all completely misinterpreted what we have seen and are only serving to smear Ablett's reputation as a gentleman. What may have appeared as a reckless hand into his opponent's face with a rake of the fingers to follow was quite simply an attempt to tenderly caress his worthy adversary as an expression of his admiration and respect of a fellow competitor. Such things are par for the course for the dignified gentry of the Leeds Rhinos, where foulplay and dirty deeds have no place as they are the acts of a cad and would not be tolerated. Their impeccable judiciary record shows this to be true.
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| Maybe it wasn't as conclusive on the stadiums sole camera, Aren't the SKY camera's footage excluded in such cases to avoid certain games being more scrutinised than others?
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| Quote ="Edith"Maybe it wasn't as conclusive on the stadiums sole camera, Aren't the SKY camera's footage excluded in such cases to avoid certain games being more scrutinised than others?'"
Do you mean like those that have video refs?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Do you mean like those that have video refs?'"
Crap, innit.
Contradicting, Regardless of this, I'm pretty sure that the disciplinary panel use only footage from the stadiums sole camera regardless of what footage the SKY cameras captured, explains alot of decisions that come out of Red Hall.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Quote ="Andy R"The difference being, he made no contact with the eyes'"
I'll say it again, Andy R, for the hard of thinking:
"SAYS WHO?"'" Quote ="Andy R"I didn't answer as I thought it was fairly obvious but if you need it explaining:
1) The RFL disciplinary'" Have they? Where?
Quote ="Andy R"2) The cameras
'" Err, yes they do. That's why everyone, [ithat's everyone[/i who has spoken on this, excluding a handful of face, I mean Leeds fans, has been very indignant since Saturday.
What was the letter from the RFL cautioning him for?
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| So Moa gets a ban for a shoulder charge and Ablett gets a strongly worded letter for trying to blind a fellow professional. The RFL are a bunch of clowns.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"What was the letter from the RFL cautioning him for?'"
To beware of the kind of hot-headed ruffians who play for clubs other than Leeds, as they can explode without provocation at any time. I believe there may have been a postscript containing a profuse apology that such individuals currently pollute the SL, but it is unfortunately the case that there are not enough of the kind upstanding, honourable athletes whom make up the Leeds club to go around.
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| Quote ="The Ice Man"Great to see the RFL have got it right in this case if abbo wanted to really gauge manu he would have done! end of! he was grabbing out no intent was there at all'"
Thanks Carl. Your input is really valuable
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| Quote ="Robbo4"So Moa gets a ban for a shoulder charge and Ablett gets a strongly worded letter for trying to blind a fellow professional. The RFL are a bunch of clowns.'"
Manu's letter tells him in no uncertain terms that if he continues to impersonate a bowling ball, the committee will take a very dim view.
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| I think Manu should be ashamed trying to break Abletts fingers with his eyeballs. Seriously though "jobs Fooked."
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| Still not seen the replays. Therefore hard to comment.
Has anyone from Hull FC made any comment?
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Still not seen the replays. Therefore hard to comment.
[uHas anyone from Hull FC made any comment[/u?'"
apart from the 20K who watched it at home , those at the match etc ....no comment made
but GH is right remember
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| Quote ="voodooroo"apart from the 20K who watched it at home , those at the match etc ....no comment made
but GH is right remember'"
Thanks, but I had in mind somebody more official...
I never mentioned GH (who also doesn't seem to have made any public comment on the incident).
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| Sheffield players got banned last week on the evidence of fan footage on youtube so it would seem unlikely that the match review committee didn't consult the Sky footage.
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