Pathetic is the right word.

Feel a bit for Obst, gave his all throughout last season for us, and is decent cover, just a shame that there is better/ younger cover in front of him in the pecking order.

If we couldn't shift him I wouldn't be too upset tbh, at least you know what you're getting with Sammy.

Obst is in the driving seat here, and good luck to him. It's a short career and it's our mistake to have offered him a 2 year deal. Disappointing all round, but it's of our making, not his.

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If we'd only offered Obst 1 year, I doubt he'd have come, and without him I am sure we'd not have made the play offs. Now as much as we were never going to win them, that awayday at Cas when we secured it, and even the first half hour of the Leeds game I wouldn't swap for Obst to only get 1 year (if that all makes sense?)

I think I get what you mean, but I personally disagree. Finishing 8th meant nothing really IMO, as we were always going to lose at the first knockout hurdle, so for me the Obst signing was still fairly pointless and just a sign of our desperation. He was never worth a 2 year deal or a quota spot, and a meaningless 8th place wasn't worth the problem he's now causing our recruitment situation. I'd sooner we'd stayed away from him and finished in the bottom 4. ATEOTD the only thing we got for making the playoffs was a frankly embarrassing -kicking on TV, and we'd be in a better position now if we had.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Obst came in, did a decent job and gave his all. No complaints about signing him at all here.

The fact that we now want to move him on is not his fault or a reflection on his effort at all. It will all get sorted out and I wish him well wherever he ends up next.

It is, but in this case the outcome could be seen a mile off TBH. The only other possibilities would have been to either have him as our first choice scrum half or one of 2 first choice hookers, and IMO he's not quite good enough for either in a top 6 team so that would probably have been worse. He was a short-sighted panic buy, who neverless gave his all and should not be faulted for his part in things.

I don't agree that it could have been seen a mile off. At that point, we were desperate for a half back and hadn't signed anyone for the coming season. He could well have ended up seeing out his contract, if things hadn't gone to plan on the recruitment.

Academic really now, though.

In you're own words.............

I certainly wrote that about something !



But I do not sit here making things up in the hope that someone will love me

Oh by the way, did I mention that we're about to sign a player very soon. I don't know who, when or where from but when we do, you'll know and of course I'll give you a

Ok, we got the idea the first time you posted this

OH thanks

Certain people on here know the identity of the player i was referring too.The info or ''rumour'' came from someone i have known for nearly 30 years,and works over in oz,so decided to let people know what he said,but i forgot,my mistake,this is only a rumours thread,and only a [iselect few [/iare able to say anything



As for hoping someone will love me,get over yourself

I don't mean this to sound like trumpet-blowing, but there were a fair few of us who called this exact situation. The key is the desperation as you mention, which meant that we handed out a 2 year deal as well as a transfer fee on a 30-year-old quota hooker who wasn't/isn't really good enough at halfback. We got ourselves into such a corner we just did what we had to to get somebody (anybody) in, and overlooked whether or not the potential benefits outweighed the potential cost. We may now pay for that.

Also, your last point is quite interesting. Basically his signing would have been a decent one if everything else went down the pan.

That is not a "rumour" then is it. No name, club or country, not even a position. You don't need to "know" someone for 30 years to have a coup like that !

Totally agree with you just saying I heard something but having no info is just silly

It's a rumour thread! If he's heard a rumour someone is coming to the club, then it's just pure hearsay until it actually happens anyway!

I don't get why people get so worked up about it! You don't have to believe a rumour!

I have told a few people on here the ins and outs of it,but think this is turning into a ''abuse fellow fans'' thread,and can understand many of the fans who dont post on here any more,sad,but true

=#FF0000I don't think it's gone that far, but can everyone please just chill out and think before you post.

No need for this to degenerate into a slanging match

Chris

Its not abuse from me It just baffles me whats the point in saying it ..you actually havent really said anything tbh but hey ho like people have always said its a rumours thread so fair enough. But giving no info you must realise why people would question what you say.

Once the Obst situation is resolved I expect we will see an experienced Austrailian forward come on board, who? i have no idea.

Mark Minichello? Not a rumour, just a possibility. A Tickle 'type' 2nd rower, but better. He also has an Italian passport so no Visa issues and only Non-Fed.

I hear "Fore arm" Fozzard is available





FFS no

No he's not