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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"Agar can't do right from wrong for some of you lot on here.
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I think if Rich handed in his resignation and fecked off back to whatever cave in Featherstone that he crawled out of in the first place, the vast majority of people on here would be happy to conclude that he'd done the right thing for once.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"I think if Rich handed in his resignation and fecked off back to whatever cave in Featherstone that he crawled out of in the first place, the vast majority of people on here would be happy to conclude that he'd done the right thing for once.'"
Your pathetic personal attacks say it all I'm afraid.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"I think if Rich handed in his resignation and fecked off back to whatever cave in Featherstone that he crawled out of in the first place, the vast majority of people on here would be happy to conclude that he'd done the right thing for once.'"
Unnecessary and nasty. Agar's done/doing his best, works very hard and has unearthed some decent talent - without him the Briscoe brothers wouldn't be at the club. He's not been able to make the step up to a top 4 coach after 3 years. That doesn't make him a bad person.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Unnecessary and nasty. Agar's done/doing his best, works very hard and has unearthed some decent talent - without him the Briscoe brothers wouldn't be at the club. He's not been able to make the step up to a top 4 coach after 3 years. That doesn't make him a bad person.'"
On the contrary - from everything I've heard he's a thoroughly nice chap. I've literally not spoken to a single person with a bad word to say about him on a personal level. He's just not cut out for the job he has.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"People said that when Moa knocked on Agar said "Eff Off Sammy" then subbed him a couple of minutes later. Personally having watched it back (it's on about 31 minutes if you can bear to watch) I think he said "For God's Sake". I've seen far worse rants in by a coach.
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The part of it that bothered me is hauling him off when he doesn't do the same to other players for making errors. Fitzgibbon came up with several within minutes of each other last week yet stayed on for the full 80 and continued to make more. It just seems that Agar is too cowardly to take action when it's the more senior players involved, and that isn't right for either the team performance or player morale.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I never saw these anti sammy comments from Agar either, just a coaches natural frustration.'"
He definitely told someone to 'get him off'.
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| I'm not interested whether he's a nice bloke or whether he's doing his best. Yes he brought the Briscoe's to the club but if he hangs around much longer the oldest of those will be off in a year or two anyway as he seeks the silverware that his talent deserves. 'Cheap' as Agar might be, he's still paid far more than most fans of the club will ever hope to earn and all he can serve up is dross, he's stealing a living IMO so I won't be losing any sleep over a few harsh words.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"I'm not interested whether he's a nice bloke or whether he's doing his best. Yes he brought the Briscoe's to the club but if he hangs around much longer the oldest of those will be off in a year or two anyway as he seeks the silverware that his talent deserves. 'Cheap' as Agar might be, he's still paid far more than most fans of the club will ever hope to earn and all he can serve up is dross, he's stealing a living IMO so I won't be losing any sleep over a few harsh words.'"
If you were struggling in your job, would you just chuck it in? Could you even afford to?
I think Agar has to go, but I don't see why you would need to hold any personal malice towards him.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"The part of it that bothered me is hauling him off when he doesn't do the same to other players for making errors. Fitzgibbon came up with several within minutes of each other last week yet stayed on for the full 80 and continued to make more. It just seems that Agar is too cowardly to take action when it's the more senior players involved, and that isn't right for either the team performance or player morale.'"
It's been clear for some time that Agar has his favourites.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"It's been clear for some time that Agar has his favourites.'"
Is it that, or is it that he's not strong enough to drop/substitute certain senior players?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Unnecessary and nasty. Agar's done/doing his best, works very hard and has unearthed some decent talent - without him the Briscoe brothers wouldn't be at the club. He's not been able to make the step up to a top 4 coach after 3 years. That doesn't make him a bad person.'"
thats how i see it too,i wouldnt be too bothered if he stayed at the club in some capacity,hes just not up to the job he is employed at the club to do...
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| If I was running say the Royal Mail, I would be completely out of my depth and no doubt do a thoroughly poor job leading to thousands if not millions of unhappy customers.
Would people defend me on the basis that I was trying my best and I'm a good lad to go for a pint with?
He's in a highly paid high profile job and abuse comes with the territory. I realise it might make me look not very nice but I can't deny after putting up with 3 years of his rubbish I've built up a bit of animosity towards the bloke.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Is it that, or is it that he's not strong enough to drop/substitute certain senior players?'"
Maybe so. Fitz shouldnt be playing 80 mins although he likes to. Maybe Agar daren't take him off.
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| Quote ="hull fc_white"thats how i see it too,i wouldnt be too bothered if he stayed at the club in some capacity'"
Me neither, with the right training I think he could make an excellent cleaner.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"If I was running say the Royal Mail, I would be completely out of my depth and no doubt do a thoroughly poor job leading to thousands if not millions of unhappy customers.
Would people defend me on the basis that I was trying my best and I'm a good lad to go for a pint with?
He's in a highly paid high profile job and abuse comes with the territory. I realise it might make me look not very nice but I can't deny after putting up with 3 years of his rubbish I've built up a bit of animosity towards the bloke.'"
It shouldn't get personal. The fault is not with him, it's with him being given an opportunity to do a very demanding job and not being able to take us forward. Why use language like "crawl back under your stone"? Out of order and devalues your line of argumentation.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"If I was running say the Royal Mail, I would be completely out of my depth and no doubt do a thoroughly poor job leading to thousands if not millions of unhappy customers.
Would people defend me on the basis that I was trying my best and I'm a good lad to go for a pint with?
He's in a highly paid high profile job and abuse comes with the territory. I realise it might make me look not very nice but I can't deny after putting up with 3 years of his rubbish I've built up a bit of animosity towards the bloke.'"
Is your sig a sign of your 'animosity'?
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Me neither, with the right training I think he could make an excellent cleaner.
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Nah, he'd get his interchange of the mop bucket water all wrong.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"It's been clear for some time that Agar has his favourites.'"
It's certainly appeared that way. Whether it's that or a lack of bottle to make decisions with the older players though, it's not good for the team.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"It shouldn't get personal. The fault is not with him, it's with him being given an opportunity to do a very demanding job and not being able to take us forward. Why use language like "crawl back under your stone"? Out of order and [udevalues your line of argumentation[/u.'"
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Nah, he'd get his interchange of the mop bucket water all wrong.
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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"Is your sig a sign of your 'animosity'?'"
Actually not particularly, it was a response to a new moderation policy implemented after the Rovers game.
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Can you imagine the mess when he carries on mopping with dirty water. It's not worth thinking about.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Nah, he'd get his interchange of the mop bucket water all wrong.
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And insist on using that rickety broken-down old hoover when there's a Dyson sitting in the store cupboard barely touched.
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| everyone is entitled to their own opinion of Agar but for me personally he over stepped the mark doing what he did to Sammy, there is showing passion and then there is what Agar is doing caught live on national tv verbally bashing one of his own players. Totally wrong saying "F-off sammy gettin him off", you can now all judge for yourselves if he was right or wrong.
I have uploaded the said incident on to that well known video site just search "Agar verbal bashing of Sammy Moa "
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| Quote ="rowdellhead"everyone is entitled to their own opinion of Agar but for me personally he over stepped the mark doing what he did to Sammy, there is showing passion and then there is what Agar is doing caught live on national tv verbally bashing one of his own players. Totally wrong saying "F-off sammy gettin him off", you can now all judge for yourselves if he was right or wrong.
I have uploaded the said incident on to that well known video site just search "Agar verbal bashing of Sammy Moa "'"
Can you link it? I assume if it is your video it is permissable?
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