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| He has never really made the grade in the NRL, despite having plenty of opportunities. He may do better in Super League, but at the end of the day he is only going to be cover for Long and Horne. So he'll probably get a lot of game time
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"He has never really made the grade in the NRL, despite having plenty of opportunities. He may do better in Super League, but at the end of the day he is only going to be cover for Long and Horne. So he'll probably get a lot of game time
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He has nearly a hundred appearances.
Where he struggles is the organising/dictating plays.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"He has nearly a hundred appearances.
Where he struggles is the organising/dictating plays.'"
Does he have a kicking game, Sheldon? This is an area we're lacking IMO - Long didn't hit the spot last season, Horne generally pinpoints the FB on the full with deadly accuracy and we don't use Houghton or Tickle in this area enough for me.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Does he have a kicking game, Sheldon? This is an area we're lacking IMO - Long didn't hit the spot last season, Horne generally pinpoints the FB on the full with deadly accuracy and we don't use Houghton or Tickle in this area enough for me.'"
I think Houghton should be utilised more, if it's possible. In the few kicks I've seen him do he seemed to be pretty decent.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"He has nearly a hundred appearances.
Where he struggles is the organising/dictating plays.'"
So, the main thing we miss when Long is out then?
Still think we need a lot of work getting the team better drilled to help the halves out, TBH. We shouldn't be so reliant on one player to do all the organising.
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| Quote ="Panda92"I think Houghton should be utilised more, if it's possible. In the few kicks I've seen him do he seemed to be pretty decent.'"
Yep. We have a few different types of kicker - Long's pretty good at bombs, Tickle and Whiting both have a long kick on them, Houghton couild be used more, Tansey got 2 40/20s last season. It just seems that we more often than not kick straight to the FB. Need some Brough-type efforts that slow up just short of the dead ball line and turn the opposition round.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"So, the main thing we miss when Long is out then?
Still think we need a lot of work getting the team better drilled to help the halves out, TBH. We shouldn't be so reliant on one player to do all the organising.'"
In theory shouldn't all the players know the plays regardless of who is present in the halves? The halves need the skills the execute the plays but everyone should know where they should be at any given point, in theory.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Does he have a kicking game, Sheldon? This is an area we're lacking IMO - Long didn't hit the spot last season, Horne generally pinpoints the FB on the full with deadly accuracy and we don't use Houghton or Tickle in this area enough for me.'"
Very average.
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| Quote ="scarrie"In theory shouldn't all the players know the plays regardless of who is present in the halves? The halves need the skills the execute the plays but everyone should know where they should be at any given point, in theory.'"
Exactly. It's why the likes of Saints and Leeds had much less disruption than us when coping with injuries to their halves. A youngster comes in and knows exactly what is required of him and what the players around him will be doing. We, on the other hand (and I've made this comparison before), end up looking like an under 11s side desperately looking round for an adult to tell them what to do next.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"So, the main thing we miss when Long is out then?
Still think we need a lot of work getting the team better drilled to help the halves out, TBH. We shouldn't be so reliant on one player to do all the organising.'"
In the past 4 seasons he's played behind poor packs, when he played behind a half decent one(in 2006) he excelled.
I'm hoping he surprises me.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Yep. We have a few different types of kicker - Long's pretty good at bombs, Tickle and Whiting both have a long kick on them, Houghton couild be used more, Tansey got 2 40/20s last season. It just seems that we more often than not kick straight to the FB. Need some Brough-type efforts that slow up just short of the dead ball line and turn the opposition round.'"
In my mind, I have houghton as being a good long-kicker. I remember him kicking a few and those landing just in play, making it awkward for the fullback.
My memory isn't perfect, though.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"He has nearly a hundred appearances.'"
Yes but at 27 that's not a lot of games, but the Warriors released him and now the Cowboys have.
Didn't he spend much of last season playing in the lower leagues?
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he can do a job for us. I'd rather see him in the halves than Washbrook, but he's not the answer, just a stop gap until we hopefully sign a quality half back for 2012.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he can do a job for us. I'd rather see him in the halves than Washbrook, but he's not the answer, just a stop gap until we hopefully sign a quality half back for 2012.'"
If he does sign on a year deal as claimed on here, it will will purely be for cover IMO, and if he does excel then brilliant, option to sign him on for longer.
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| Quote ="Panda92"In my mind, I have houghton as being a good long-kicker. I remember him kicking a few and those landing just in play, making it awkward for the fullback.
My memory isn't perfect, though.'"
On his debut against Quins he was inch perfect with the boot.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Yes but at 27 that's not a lot of games, but the Warriors released him and now the Cowboys have.
Didn't he spend much of last season playing in the lower leagues?
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he can do a job for us. I'd rather see him in the halves than Washbrook, but he's not the answer, just a stop gap until we hopefully sign a quality half back for 2012.'"
But in 5 seasons it's a very good record.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"But in 5 seasons it's a very good record.'"
Well lets hope we get him and that he does what we need him to.
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| Let's let him be announced first.
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Me too I hope we sign him because frankly he's probably the best that's available and affordable for 2011.
But seriously, if you read all the press reports you might come to the view that he's a star in the Queensland Cup but not quite there in the NRL?
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Me too I hope we sign him because frankly he's probably the best that's available and affordable for 2011.
But seriously, if you read all the press reports you might come to the view that he's a star in the Queensland Cup but not quite there in the NRL?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Exactly. It's why the likes of Saints and Leeds had much less disruption than us when coping with injuries to their halves. A youngster comes in and knows exactly what is required of him and what the players around him will be doing. We, on the other hand (and I've made this comparison before), end up looking like an under 11s side desperately looking round for an adult to tell them what to do next.'"
That's where the top sides are so good, they rely on systems/style of play rather than individuals. We need to adopt a better approach in our thinking otherwise youngsters or anyone else for that matter who come in as cover have a tough job.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Me too
I hope we sign him because frankly he's probably the best that's available and affordable for 2011.
But seriously, if you read all the press reports you might come to the view that he's a star in the Queensland Cup but not quite there in the NRL?'"
We have to remember he is not a star signing, just cover and much better than the cover we had last season.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"We have to remember he is not a star signing, just cover and much better than the cover we had last season.'"
I think we are all agreed on that!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"We have to remember he is not a star signing, just cover and much better than the cover we had last season.'"
Bingo.
But I can just hear it now "Why sign a player, use our quota spot, and not even use it? Total waste of quota spot from our awful board once again".
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