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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Can you spell patronising, pedantic, tw*t????
[uJR was brought in as Chief Executive not as purely a marketing man[/u. How can you say he is good at his job when he has being at the helm of an organisation that has performed so poorly over the last few years, he has lied and misled the fans and come out with endless spin. Any other business his feet wouldnt touch on his way out.'"
Rule was brought in to do the marketing, Plummer was the Chief Executive when Rule started at the club but was made upto Chief Executive when Plummer went.
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| Quote ="Standee"where have we failed in an area where JR had direct influence?
get that chip off your shoulder, I don't like the guy either, but he's done a great job for FC.'"
As CE he should have influence in every area of the club not just selling over priced merchandise and bumping up ticket prices and lining KH's pockets. AP's statement today confirms today what a lot of us feared, how badly the club has being run on and off the pitch and as CE the bloke must take a very large share in the blame.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"As CE he should have influence in every area of the club not just selling over priced merchandise and bumping up ticket prices and lining KH's pockets. AP's statement today confirms today what a lot of us feared, how badly the club has being run on and off the pitch and as CE the bloke must take a very large share in the blame.'"
bollox
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Any other business his feet wouldnt touch on his way out.'"
Ah. So you reckon that Pearson is incompetent for not sacking him immediately do you?
That statement is baloney in any case. Take a look at the banking/financial sector for a start.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint" How can you say he is good at his job when he has being at the helm of an organisation that has performed so poorly over the last few years, he has lied and misled the fans and come out with endless spin.'"
If the owners wanted him to do that, what choice did he have? He might have favoured a more honest approach with the fans, but was prevented from adopting that sort of tone by Kath and Co. As someone has already pointed out, Pearson isn't afraid of clearing out deadwood where necessary, so we should trust him to make the judgement as to whether JR should be allowed to remain in post, shouldn't we?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Fairly sure he was brought in as marketing manager/director and later promoted to CEO after Plummer got the push. The two of them overlapped in 2007 at least I thought?'"
So he has being CE for 4 years then??
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| As none of us know the background to what happened previously, can we just leave it to AP to sort out. He doesn't seem to have missed anything so far and his latest statement suggests he won't be afraid to do whatever is necessary.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"As CE he should have influence in every area of the club not just selling over priced merchandise and bumping up ticket prices and lining KH's pockets. AP's statement today confirms today what a lot of us feared, how badly the club has being run on and off the pitch and as CE the bloke must take a very large share in the blame.'"
In his defence he did oversee the club posting a profit these past few years, no mean feat for a Super League club. Surely this is the primary aim of a Chief Executive in any line of business? How can you say he would be out on his ear within any other profit making organisation?
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"As none of us know the background to what happened previously, can we just leave it to AP to sort out. He doesn't seem to have missed anything so far and his latest statement suggests he won't be afraid to do whatever is necessary.'"
Totally agree with this, if he feels Rule is incompetant at his job he'll soon be gone.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"So he has being CE for 4 years then??'"
Plummer left around the time of the Cooke fiasco didn't he? That was not long after the start of the 2007 season so 4 years or thereabouts. Not sure what the relevance is, mind - the fact remains that he was originally brought in to do marketing and has continued to focus on that function.
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| Quote ="jacko1"Totally agree with this, if he feels Rule is incompetant at his job he'll soon be gone.'"
I think he may well be gone soon, not because he's incompetent (which he isn't) but because AP is gradually getting rid of everyone connected with the old regime.
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| Quote ="jacko1"Totally agree with this, if he feels Rule is incompetant at his job he'll soon be gone.'"
Rant over im sure like you say AP will do what he thinks best.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"I think he may well be gone soon, not because he's incompetent (which he isn't) but because AP is gradually getting rid of everyone connected with the old regime.'"
The only two circumstances I can see JR leaving are:
1) He gets a job in Union, which has been his aim for some time
2) AP quits City and takes on the day to day role of Chief Executive of FC
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| Quote ="Standee"bollox
you've never been a senior manager in a shareholder led company I take it.'"
yeah i was the chairman of f***ing ICE, get over urself!!
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Can you spell patronising, pedantic, tw*t????
JR was brought in as Chief Executive not as purely a marketing man. How can you say he is good at his job when he has being at the helm of an organisation that has performed so poorly over the last few years, he has lied and misled the fans and come out with endless spin. Any other business his feet wouldnt touch on his way out.'"
I wasn't having a pop, just trying to be helpful. And he was brought in for marketing, he was Commercial Director and then 'promoted' to Chief Exec.
IMO it's a blinkered view to say that the organisation has performed poorly over the last few years, it has only performed poorly in one aspect, and that aspect has not been Rule's to control. I can only think of one occasion where he has outright lied, and it is a big part of his job to put the bright side spin on all of the goings on at the club.
And unless you are/have been involved in running the club, your last statement is unfounded, prejudiced nonsense. We can't know that at all.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"yeah i was the chairman of f***ing ICE, get over urself!!'"
only one person on this thread needs to "get over themself" and that is you.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"He was originally Marketing Director/Manager and was promoted to Chief Exec after Plummer left.
The rest of your post is probably libellous.'"
Wasn't actually after Plummer left, Plummer was made Finance Director IIRC.
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| Quote ="Standee"2) AP quits City and takes on the day to day role of Chief Executive of FC'"
Most likely scenario IMO.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Most likely scenario IMO.'"
Depends. I posted on a previous thread that I suspect Hull City pay Adam Pearson more than Hull FC pay James Rule, in which case it would make financial sense for Pearson to stay where he is and leave Rule in his position. He'll still have ultimate control.
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| Great statement of intent from AP.
That will not just please fans to see, myself included but will reassure possible signings that they are joining (in his own words) an ambious club.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"As none of us know the background to what happened previously, can we just leave it to AP to sort out. He doesn't seem to have missed anything so far and his latest statement suggests he won't be afraid to do whatever is necessary.'"
Exactly. He's one of the only people in a position to make an informed decision, the rest of us can only make guesses with whatever bias we have manifesting itself.
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| Bloody marvelous, AP is like a breath of fresh air after all the spin and crap we have had in recent years.
JR is next on the leaving party list as I reckon we need a complete sweep of the club to remove any traces of the last administration. The whole club has to be purged of mediocrity, the milk cow mentality and become more customer ( fan ) focused
For year many of attempted to point out what the old mob where doing , milking us dry and for years we where shouted down. Disloyal, unfaithful and un grateful to those who kept the club alive, true they did and now it would appear that debt we have repaid many times over.
I am filled with releif when I see the new owner coming out with these sort of statements, after years of under funding and being sold short we may at long last be on the verge of a golden future.
One I hope we can all share and enjoy a brillaint secure future together
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Firstly; =#0000BFsycophantic, propaganda, and culpable.
Secondly, people outside of the club have no idea for certain whether Rule is how you described or simply wasn't listened to. I think there are many who unfairly hold an association with the people he happened to be employed by against him. The fact is, he came to the club as a marketing man, and on that side we're one of if not the best in the league, as shown by our income.
I just hope that if Rule does stay in his position fans finally start to consider that he might be good at his job and an asset to the club, instead of just wanting rid because he's a reminder of Kath Hetherington.'"
Think he meant "sycophant".
I wonder how much better James Rule can be with the backing of AP.
There's a lot of emphasis in AP's piece on investment in youth development. We've long wondered why more young players weren't coming through the system and this seems to have lacked a lot more focus than our Grade A license would have lulled us into believing. The finger of blame has pointed at Andy Last for not developing them and Agar for not blooding them but perhaps they were just not up to it through lack of application of the sports science knowledge out there, lack of focus on player performance management and poor training facilities at a key point in their development as young, growing people. I find AP's determination to sort this area out as one of the most inspiring aspects of the piece.
It feels a bit too good to be true all of this after the last 20 or so years.
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| Quote ="downtheante"Think he meant "sycophant".
I wonder how much better James Rule can be with the backing of AP.
There's a lot of emphasis in AP's piece on investment in youth development. We've long wondered why more young players weren't coming through the system and this seems to have lacked a lot more focus than our Grade A license would have lulled us into believing. the finger of blame has pointed at Andy Last for not developing them and Agar for not blooding them but perhaps they were just not up to it through lack of application of the sports science knowledge out there, lack of focus on player performance management and poor training facilities at a key point in their development as young, growing people. I find AP's determination to sort this area out as one of the most inspiring aspects of the piece.
It feels a bit to good to be true all of this after the last 20 or so years.'"
I think, for what it's worth, the younger players didn't come through because of clauses in their contracts that would trigger payments and the old lot didn't like the idea of paying "two people for the same job" sort of thing.
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