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I've just read that link, and re-read it in light your post, but I still don't see where you're picking up him saying/suggesting that.

Why is that always the standard answer to why a player leaves?

I know it's most likely, but there seem to be 'other factors' in this one rather than just 'silly money'.

I've heard TP has convinced him to join his church in St helens.

Maybe Agar will do us a favour and give him one of his famous talks convincing him to stay at Hull FC?

Think the answer this time is we know Hull Fc are offering silly money on a 3yr contract and that Saints have offered a lot more money for a 2yr contract.

One question what exactly happened to your policy of only offering 1yr contracts to over 30's ??

Well he did all in 4 years while at the club.

Just adapting to the current restrictions and circumstances I guess. More kids will get a chance earlier, but also players in their mid-30s will be better placed to get an extra year or two.

Well this one isn't an injury prone player who is past his best.

All public sources are indicating that the competing contract - whoever it may be with - is 'substantially' larger than the one on offer from FC and for one year less as well. Given that the FC offer would make him one of the highest earners at a club spending full cap, I'd say that 'silly money' is about spot on myself.

I really think that, whatever the outcome, Willy (or his agent) should let us all know what the decision is. Much as we all are big fans of his, he is losing a lot of support by this constant delay.

I heard TP has convinced him and Tupou to live in a tepee in TP's back garden.

I don't think it was ever 'policy' as such: we just offer contracts based on circumstances of each individual player.

Unlike Hull who have offered Ellis silly money and have now lost there best player this season to a bigger club?
You can't have it all?

I see the idiots are out, again, Hull offered Ellis less than he was offered elsewhere, an Manu is far from Hull's best player, and Skints are in more debt than Greece!

where is houghton going?

i would say he was pretty close to being our best player, not far.

there are a number of players who are going really weel, Houghton,Tickle and Manu are amongst them, but to say Manu is our best is a stretch in my opinion, we'll mis him, but we wont lose games because he isn't in the hoops (imho) and that's even IF he's going.

I'd rather have Ellis than Manu, especially if Manu doesn't have the heart for FC that I thought he did.

How can you say that 'silly money' is 'spot on' purely going off 'public sources'? What even constitutes 'silly money' anyway?

Hull aren't going to come out and say that 'we've offered an alright deal, fingers crossed he signs' are they?

I'm sure that you as fans are sick of seeing that Gareth Ellis will be on 'silly money' yet you say it here about the possible Manu contract

What standee says is spot on,hull offered far less than leeds but lets be fair,ellis has looked at the super league record of hull and thought thats the place for me,after all what do leeds ever win in superleague.??

IMO Houghton, Seymour, and Lynch have been our most important players this season. Tickle has been our best backrower.

I honestly don't give a flying one what fans of other teams think we might have paid Ellis. I'm confident that we paid an amount in line with his quality, and equally confident that we weren't the largest offer on the table in pure monetary terms. Others are free to believe what they like.

It's clear from club, press, and private sources that the offer to Manu would make him one of the club's top earners. We spend full cap so our top earners are likely to be not far off the top earners at similar spending clubs. The same multiple sources agree that there is a counter offer on the table for 'substantially' more money. Granted the phrase 'silly money' is subjective, but I think that most people would probably say that paying a 32 year old substantially more than similar top earners at the top spending clubs would be in that bracket.

even more so, IF it's Skints, as they don't have the money to back up theire noise, if he stays great, if he goes, fiar enough, can't blame him. If my phone rang now and someone offered me 20% more a day for the same work at no extra outlay to me, I'd bite their hand off.

Not as much as a stretch to state he is FAR from the best, which is what you have claimed.

He won't have to move house anyway! He's going to Rovers.
Watch this space!