The real issue is that we don't get him good, quick ball because no one in the team seems able to pass or to actually run straight at the opposition in order to draw defenders to them. If he got decent ball he'd look a lot better player in atatck (although he is defensively poor from what I've seen). It's why our 2nd rowers rarely make breaks and really needs sorting. Our attack is so slow and ponderous it's painful to watch

Oh I agree however a good player does more than just wait for good quick ball and seeks to get stuck in elsewhere or figure a way of overcoming situations that are less than ideal.
if you can only perform if your team gets you into an ideal position then it's hardly surprising he hasn't being looking that great.
Someone mentioned he should get a spell in the second row, frankly it might get him into the action a bit more in attack and just use him as a fleet footed forward then bring him back to centre for defence (unless he fancies it in the middle?)
He's not hapless by any stretch, he just needs to get involved a bit more for a player of supposed calibre.

Purely coincidence.
Are you saying the criticism is not deserved?
Remember Griffin is supposed to be our star signing for this season and no doubt a salary to match.
He has had time to settle into the side and style of play but i have yet to see any improvement from his poor to average displays.
Its not a witch hunt nor am i paranoid,but in my opinion once we have a near fully fit squad and assuming Fonua will still be with us then Griffin will be lucky to get a game.
For that reason i can see the club trying to move him on at the end of the season

Star signing, I don't remember that been said by many if any fans, before signing Kelly, I thought the two we signed had potential, add competition to the backs and help improve our attacking options, personally think they are going this.

Nobody including you knows his salary.

It's a strange one. Not sure who rated Griffin above Kelly in 2017 recruitment.

One game each !

Can we put out a 17?

Will we even be able to name a 19 this week?

griffin
watts
ellis
sneyd
taylor
thompson
fonua
bin man

Anyone else? 8 out with 7 of those our first choice 13

Expect another hammering

They've got a couple back as well. Could be a very long evening.

Ellis and Tuli to be jabbed up I wonder? Both must be close.

shaul,binman,griffin,tuime,rawsthorne,conner,kelly,bowden,houghton,green,mini,manu,washy, subs ellis, turgut,masi,fash,

hoping griffin takes the egb and gets off?

he took the egp, yet still got 1 game

Yeah, fingers crossed

Shaul
Rawsthorne
Carlos
Logan? Bower?
Michaels
Connor
Kelly
Bowden
Houghton
Green
Mini
Manu
Washbrook

Turgut
Thompson (if not ill otherwise Downs)
Fash
Matongo

This is assuming Bowden is OK as I don't think he came back on on Monday and Manu looks to be playing with a knock.

Squad will certainly be interesting.

Blimey.

If Thompson is fit then I suppose we could put Downs on the bench and Turgut in the centres....

sneaking feeling ellis will play some part, and maybe Thompson back, think if fit masi surely must be in the squad

Shaul
Rawsthorne
Carlos
Connor
Michaels
Wray
Kelly
Bowden
Houghton
Green
Mini
Manu
Washbrook

Turgut
Thompson
Fash
Matongo

I asked Taylor today at Bev races about his injury, he was very coy, I think the players have been told by Radford to to talk to anyone about injuries, really strange the way injuries are been commicated with fans this season compared to other teams.

I'd rather the club just be honest and say for example Fonua and Taylor are out for roughly 6 weeks

Hopefully a couple of players back, Thomo, Ellis and Talanoa, if not we are really struggling

Shaul
Talanoa/Micheals
Carlos
Michaels/Turgut
Rawsthorne
Connor
Sneyd
Green
Houghton
Bowden
Mini
Manu
Washy

Ellis/Litten
Turgut/Downs
Thompson/Masi
Fash

Probable Wigan team
Tierney
Davies
Forsyth
Burgess
Marshall
Williams
Leuluai
FPN
McIlorum
Sutton
Tomkins
Farrell
O'Loughlin

Powell Tautai Isa ?

Pack and particularly the bench will be far to strong for us, Williams will have a field day unless we get some players back.

I also asked him about his injury and was told he'll find out in two days. He didn't look to bad though.

Shaul
Talanoa
Michaels
Tuimavave
Rawsthorne
Connor
Sneyd
Green
Houghton
Bowden
Mini
Manu
Washy

Turgut
Downs/Ellis
Thompson
Fash