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| I think you will win this one. we arent cracking away from home recently. Wigan beat us with some players missing on Friday. Just hope Rangi can get it going like he did before his ban. was quiet sunday.
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| Quote ="hesslefan"I think one improvement that has got to be made is when the interchanges take place. Many other teams performances seem to improve when they start interchanging players and up the pace; ours seems to drop and the new players take time to settle in.
When Heremaia came on on Saturday it looked like he had been training with a different team; no one was putting themselves in a position to receive a pass. I don't know whether that is down to him, the other players or more probably the coaching.
Similarly I do not know why Lynch is being substituted more regularly. He generally played 70 or 80 minutes each game last season without any drop in performance. It seems a waste of an interchange but then we are not party to the information the coaching staff have about player's fitness etc.
Westerman also needs to up his game. He has scored tries but is just as likely to try a risky and unsuccessful offload or give a penalty away. He is a very talented player but =#0080FFI'm not sure about his work ethic. He should be capable of doing for us what John Wilkin does for Saints and Sinfield for Leeds; a skilful mobile forward who can lead by example and even play in the backs if required.
I think Cas will be a difficult match. They have signed some very experienced players. Their problem will be keeping them fit throughout the year.
As a final comment about Seymour - and I am aware of the news a lttle while ago. I appreciate that his confidence may have taken a knock with all the news about other half backs coming in etc but all he needed to do on Saturday was put in a competent - not brilliant, just competent - performance and he would at least have stayed in the squad or started if Holdsworth is not fit. As a professional we were entitled to at least that.
Having said all that I retain a degree of optimism about the season as a whole!'"
He's our leading tackler, leading marker tackler, and 7th in carries (2 of those above him have played 80 minutes in all 5 games, another 2 are the hookers so pick up the ball more than any other players naturally). Of all criticisms that can be levelled at him, I'm not sure his work ethic is one of them.
I really don't know what Westerman needs to do to not be singled out for criticism. Even when he's the best of a bad bunch he specifically gets a mention whilst others are overlooked.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"He's our leading tackler, leading marker tackler, and 7th in carries (2 of those above him have played 80 minutes in all 5 games, another 2 are the hookers so pick up the ball more than any other players naturally). Of all criticisms that can be levelled at him, I'm not sure his work ethic is one of them.
I really don't know what Westerman needs to do to not be singled out for criticism. Even when he's the best of a bad bunch he specifically gets a mention whilst others are overlooked.'"
Westerman is a having a good season, I just don't understand the criticism.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Westerman is a having a good season, I just don't understand the criticism.'"
Me neither.
One of our better performers.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Westerman is a having a good season, I just don't understand the criticism.'"
Agreed. One of our top 3 forwards this year IMO.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Agreed. One of our top 3 forwards this year IMO.'"
Was last year too.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Agreed. One of our top 3 forwards this year IMO.'"
Top 3 performers full stop IMO.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I wouldn't want to see a half back combo of Westerman and Horne, if Holdsworth isn't fit I'd have considered Nicklas.'"
Can we recall Nicko?
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Can we recall Nicko?'"
Only to sack him, hopefully.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Only to sack him, hopefully.'"
Was out of order what he did. But isn't he on season long loan?
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Top 3 performers full stop IMO.'"
Thinking about it you're probably right. There's only McDonnell from the backs worth a mention & I'd probably say Westerman 2nd in the forwards on reflection.
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| Don't know if its been posted anywhere but Gansons ref on Friday
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Don't know if its been posted anywhere but Gansons ref on Friday'"
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Westerman is a having a good season, I just don't understand the criticism.'"
Same here mate I don't get it.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Me neither.
One of our better performers.'"
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Thinking about it you're probably right. There's only McDonnell from the backs worth a mention & I'd probably say Westerman 2nd in the forwards on reflection.'"
You should know by now that Joe is a favourite target for those looking for someone to blame.
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| Joe Westerman seems to be doing a hell of a lot of tackles at Hull. When he was at Cas he was used more as an attacking wide runner. His game has changed compeltely from what I have seem of him recently.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Joe Westerman seems to be doing a hell of a lot of tackles at Hull. When he was at Cas he was used more as an attacking wide runner. His game has changed compeltely from what I have seem of him recently.'"
Yes and at the loss of his creativity. He should be loose man as dont agree with all this playing another front or back rower as loose man cack
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| He also used to be a decent goal kicker at Cas Tigers.
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| Squad:
Arundel, Bowden, Briscoe, Galea, Heremaia, Holdsworth, Horne, Houghton, Johnson, Lineham, Lynch, McDonnell, O'Meley, Pitts, Tickle, Watts, Westerman, Whiting, Yeaman
I'd go:
McDonnell
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Yeaman
Briscoe
Horne
Holdsworth/Heremaia
Lynch
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Johnson
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Westerman
Pitts
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| Quote ="Goochie"Squad:
Arundel, Bowden, Briscoe, Galea, Heremaia, Holdsworth, Horne, Houghton, Johnson, Lineham, Lynch, McDonnell, O'Meley, Pitts, Tickle, Watts, Westerman, Whiting, Yeaman
I'd go:
McDonnell
Lineham
Whiting
Yeaman
Briscoe
Horne
Holdsworth/Heremaia
Lynch
Houghton
Johnson
Tickle
Westerman
Pitts
Watts
O'Meley
Galea
Heremaia/Bowden'"
That's what team I'd go for, great to have watts back and really hope holdsworth is back.
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| Quote ="Dave K."That's what team I'd go for, great to have watts back and really hope holdsworth is back.'"
Me too, if he's back I think we'll win comfortably but if he doesn't play then I think we'll struggle with Horney and Heremaia at half back.
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| Good team with impact from the bench
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Good team with impact from the bench'" Seb say a good team .Have you had a knock on your head
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| The club are claiming that the £5 'bring a friend' tickets are selling well, and that the South & East stands are nearing capacity.
[urlhttp://www.hullfc.com/article/24206/5-tickets-selling-fast-for-fridays-clash[/url
could all be hype to try and make a positive in a bad week for the club...but if your thinking of going in the East or South it might be best buying tomorrow to be on the safe side.
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