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| i like his predictions in the Daily Mail before the games played ,hes a right laugh Gentle always gets it wrong bit like his team selection !
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| Quote ="Red Adair"i like his predictions in the Daily Mail before the games played ,hes a right laugh Gentle always gets it wrong bit like his team selection !
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Do you not feel ever so slightly like you're in a glass house right now?
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| I think Gentles made his bed in assembling a bang average squad. Forget missing out on a scrum half, were bang average in the forwards and wont win many battles unless the opposition isnt up for it. If it is we'll lose almost every time.
When are we going to get someone in charge who actually has a clue as this has been going on for what seems like for ever now?
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"when the team came out tonight i rang my pal and said i don't feel confident at all tonight and can see widnes winning. he said hull by about 30 points then westy scored and i was like OK maybe i was wrong but west hull would of beat us tonight just too many individuals no team work and the worst 7 in history id say lineham was the only one who played with passion
changes next week would be for me
out: SEYMOUR
ARUNDEL
GALEA
id be tempted to take yeamo out as well if we have a young Centre good enough to step up i just want briscoe to get more ball i lose my voice screaming at yeamo to pass to him every game imagine briscoe playing outside Joel moon it would be devastating
in: HOLDSWORTH
WATTS
BOWDEN
GREEN- if fit
CROOKES- if fit'"
Agree regarding Yeamo, who by his own admission is not in the best of form. Wouldnt usually sanction moving Whiting out of the back row but i dont think yeamo offers much more than Whiting but Rich has great all round defence and will surely promote much more ball out to Briscoe. Would also free up space on the bench for Watts to return. Green, Crooks, Holdsworth all need to come back in.
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| im not saying drop galea for his form tbh hes been consistent but there is better players who are been overlooked for me and he is surplus to requirements we have tickle and westerman and both can do 80 mins in 2nd row we need more props so bowden green omeley lynch Johnson all need to be in the 17 for me and we seem to start really well with 3 props on then we bring whiting or Pitts on and get battered id like us to go with abit more bulk and bully teams and play off the back of that
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| who does gentle bring in?
hopefully a big aggressive forward in the style of sam moa, we're a soft touch, easily beaten in the pack, look at most teams in the league, they all have at least one player of that style, we dont have any! biggest mistake was not replacing sam!
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| Quote ="Bal"Do you not feel ever so slightly like you're in a glass house right now?'"
No ? Just saying i mean you lot were having a field day after Salford beat Rovers !
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| to me ,we are no better than we have been for the last 5 years.some good performances mixed in with some really poor games against weak opposition away from home.
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| Quote ="Bal"Do you not feel ever so slightly like you're in a glass house right now?'"
Red's not bright enough to work that one out.
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| Quote ="number 6"who does gentle bring in?
hopefully a big aggressive forward in the style of sam moa, we're a soft touch, easily beaten in the pack, look at most teams in the league, they all have at least one player of that style, we dont have any! biggest mistake was not replacing sam!'"
Wasn't it said we were going with a mobile set of forwards ?. I haven't seen any evidence to suggest our pack is playing to that what so ever.
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| Quote ="B0NES"Wasn't it said we were going with a mobile set of forwards ?. I haven't seen any evidence to suggest our pack is playing to that what so ever.'"
something isn't working, we arent mobile! were predictable and easy to read! we must be the only team in SL who seem to play like that or want too!
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| Quote ="number 6"something isn't working, we arent mobile! were predictable and easy to read! we must be the only team in SL who seem to play like that or want too!'"
Were simply to slow , Widnes had us on the backfoot for most if not the whole match , And that's worrying . Were no faster team since Kear left .
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| I think you need to look at the influence of Shaun Macrae - His style of RL set Salford back 10 years. I see the same parallels at the FC.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"I think you need to look at the influence of Shaun Macrae - His style of RL set Salford back 10 years. I see the same parallels at the FC.'"
ffs! mcrae has no input on coaching at the club!
you reds are obssessed with the idea he is!
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| So, what does he do? Media-whoring aside, of course.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"I think you need to look at the influence of Shaun Macrae - His style of RL set Salford back 10 years. I see the same parallels at the FC.'"
100 % Correct
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| Just read the last 11 pages and so many don't get it ! It's the same lot that blamed the players under agar.
IT IS THE COACH'S FAULT - simple and to the point
Many great coaches lead very average players to glory , that's how they become GREAT
Making ok into good , good into great and keeping awesome players on their toes and peaking.
Brian Smith 89-91 , Brian was carried across the pitch by FC fans when he left.
Gentle / Cullen /Gentle / Cullen I have been saying this since last year.
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Leeds away -worse than last season
Saints away - worse then last season
Widnes away - given all the hype as bad as last season
Wire home - MUCH MUCH worse than last season
Bulls home - same same
So on that basis HOW is 2013 really going ??????
Does Gentle have a beach house in Manly ?
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| Think the pressure is on PG and it comes down partly to poor recruiting we havent replaced Moa and Manu in what they brought to the team. We dont seem to have anyone who can break a tackle or has some grunt going forward just seems very predictable.
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| I think mcrae has the guiding hand on recruitment
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I think mcrae has the guiding hand on recruitment'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I think mcrae has the guiding hand on recruitment'"
Maybe a bit of both, you do wonder who identified Arundel as a man to give a 4 year contract.
However, it appears from what he has said that Gentle identified Jason Crookes who does look a good signing, particularly with Briscoe set to leave.
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| Andy hay will have been the man to identify Arundel.
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| Arundel is young, and will take time, he was a top prospect at Cas and he should be given more time, maybe that means out of the first team for a while longer.
BOT and as for Gentle, my concern is more to do with can he get them fired up enough? And not about set pieces and plays, I'm sure they must work hard on those but the players are not delivering.
At times last night it seemed to me (maybe because we were getting battered) that the players had given up and there was nobody to get them by the scruff of the neck and lead them? PG can't do that whilst they are on the pitch.
A good halfback will of course dictate the plays and lead them around the park from a technical point of view, but there can be no substitute for a man out there who leads by example and is prepares to give his own players a rocket when required.
Roy Keane was a good/excellent player, but he was one hell of a captain and leader.
I just dont see that on the pitch and for me is a far bigger issue than PG.
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| I wonder if Green and Crooks really had knocks? I suspect that because we were paying Widnes that PG thought it was an ideal game to try and use Arundel and Seyour, give them a bit of game time and confidence in an easy win?
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