Clueless coaching and crap recruitment.

Booooo! I'm shocked he's been willing to put his name to a story with so little substance.

They might just be promotions from the academy.

what i thought and he said he was trying to write it without getting people to excited but when you mention two great players like that we are going to get excited.

Calderwood

Looks like I have a date in Leeds City Centre approaching then.

Lauaki and Calderwood?

I take your point, though. Most of our major signings have been unheralded in the press, and players who the press [ihave[/i mentioned usually don't appear.

And certainly high profile players where we are mentioned alongside the likes of Wigan and Warrington.

I don't think so, they mentioned a couple of players to come a few weeks ago.

However we are more than likely to be trying for someone else, we don't usually find out who is signing until the deal is done like with Berrigan, Fitzgibbon and Crocker.

Aye. Although that [imight[/i change now that parachute payments have been targeted by HMRC.

This is true in most cases.

Deals may be almost done and dusted but until the signature is on a contract and officially announce there is always the chance for something to happen late in the day to scupper any deal.

Whilst it is nice to be linked with top class players until they are signed, sealed and delivered it is probably wise to keep a lid on things!

I think that was a smokescreen at the time too though Paul, I do not see how any professional RL player would see a move under Agar/Sharp as career progress.



Difference between Wigan, Warrington and FC is they appear (Wigan/Warrington) to be prepared to try and find ways of making things happen, we [iseem[/i relcutant to break our salary structures.

We have made an offer to one player (I know not who) that does break our salary structure!

We should all, by now, be experienced enough not to get too excited with us being linked too players' through the media (especially the HDM). We've been here before, on several occasions, only to be disappointed. Only when the club announce that either or both these player's are signed will I start to look forward to next season (this one's gone for me already) with any optimism.

id presume thats Orford as we havent offered anything to Kite yet

We normally spend weeks discussing the merits of certain players only for the actual signing to be someone who has never even been mentioned.

True, but possibly the most important method for these two clubs (and maybe some others) was the parachute payment system, where they could throw silly money at players without paying tax and (allegedly) without all of it appearing on the cap. We've either been too honest or too clueless to exploit that loophole which has left us at a distinct disadvantage, even were we willing to spend the money.

Regarding the reluctance to break the salary structure, it's certainly been put forward as one reason why we've missed out on some players. How true that is would be anyone's guess. I can see why you might want to hold rigidly to a structure if you have a settled squad with good morale. However, we currently have a squad in transition with what appears to be low morale.

I get the feeling that the existing pay structure may be in the process of being junked and will not necessarily stand in the way if breaking it will bring a high profile signing.

If we were to sign these two players, I would be absolutely astounded. They are obviously exactly what we need and more but it seems a little too much like dejavu to me. Anyone care to recollect last sesons targets ?? Petro Civoneceva, Willie Mason, Peacock, Kimmorley, Sherwin etc..etc.. Who did we end up with......oh yes.... Peter Cusack and Skinny Bones Byrne !!!

It appears that JR and KH are well aware that morale amongst the fans is very low indeed and is affecting and will continue to affect the club's income streams, so in rolls the media bandwagon for everyone to jump onboard.

Total myth about having a loophole to pay players beyond the salary cap as Matt Gidley is only on £40,000 a year?
Mrs Gidley is the cleaning Manager at Saints on £250,000 who you can quite see is the main bread winner in there house that leaves Matt the chance to carry on playing RL for Saints?

orford n kite already gunna wigan arent they
ricky stuart to be coach

I bet that means 5 re-signnings

Starting with thorman

Or 5 resignings starting with Agar, Sharp and Kath

Think again...........Adrian Lam is the name being spoken about.

Unless they're a good deal more stupid than I give them credit for, both will realise that floating these names will do fkall for fan morale if none of them turn up. More likely that these names have come from chatter amongst agents and journos.

if kite and orford comes off can we argue really?