[quote="RockNRolla":mya9eoz5]Funny you should mention that as Logan Moy was at Total fitness earlier with Holmes, Chamberlin,Litten and Jebson.[/quote:mya9eoz5] Holmes and Chamberlain at total fitness Thats a laugh

[quote="steve_norton":3en9zcgm]Is no one giving Westerman a chance to start ? He has played both preseason games and kicked well.[/quote:3en9zcgm] Like the look of Westerman Cant see him playing but when the coach moves Rapana to full back i think he will play a part this season

[quote="bonaire":17cnmq21]Dont forget the payoff Steve Abdull was on a three year deal so likey he was given a minimum of 1 year payoff which would not be cheap, Holmes to me is looking to go the same way[/quote:17cnmq21] Both pure guesswork like most of the drivel you post.

[quote="ComeOnYouUll":1njtrpfb]Both pure guesswork like most of the drivel you post.[/quote:1njtrpfb] Thank you for you usual rapid reply Reverend

Looking at the team from last years shambles of an opening game only Martin, EseEse, Sao, Ashworth and Lane expected to play a year later. That must he a new record for player turnover at the club?

[quote="UllFC":1323gx6m]Looking at the team from last years shambles of an opening game only Martin, EseEse, Sao, Ashworth and Lane expected to play a year later. That must he a new record for player turnover at the club?[/quote:1323gx6m] Think on that night EseEse and Ashworth were playing their first games for the club with Martin playing his second (I think). It's been player turnover by the revolving door over the past fifteen or so months. Have a feeling that revolving door may keep on spinning in the coming months.

Relating to Fash, he went backwards massively last year, apart from trying to be the hard man he just didn't look fit. Previously he was the most committed of the forwards, always giving 100%. Hopefully the new regime got him fitter & back playing to his strengths ? Lack of metres made or tackle busts always been a worry though. Fingers crossed for him.

If we play disciplined Simple rugby we can finish 7th Go fancy rugby next season please Just grind wins out this season with Skilled simple play

[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3ht123q1]If we play disciplined Simple rugby we can finish 7th Go fancy rugby next season please Just grind wins out this season with Skilled simple play[/quote:3ht123q1] Think you have it nailed (although not sure about 7th) we lack some creativity and pace, so we are going to have to tough out wins.

[quote="al283":18vc301c]Relating to Fash, he went backwards massively last year, apart from trying to be the hard man he just didn't look fit. Previously he was the most committed of the forwards, always giving 100%. Hopefully the new regime got him fitter & back playing to his strengths ? Lack of metres made or tackle busts always been a worry though. Fingers crossed for him.[/quote:18vc301c] That’s the main issue with him (when his discipline is okay), the lack of go forward. When’s he’s 1 of 4 props, we’re effectively a prop down.

Fash was ok when played at 13 with 4 decent props but he's nowhere near effective enough as a prop. Unless asiata is injured he won't get a look in at 13 obviously

[quote="bonaire":dlrks5l0]Dont forget the payoff Steve Abdull was on a three year deal so likey he was given a minimum of 1 year payoff which would not be cheap, Holmes to me is looking to go the same way[/quote:dlrks5l0] Abdull pay off doesn't effect you and me and any other fans and he doesn't count on the cap so don't see the issue, the owners can afford it and will have ratified it, your just stirring the negative boring drivel you spout week in week out. Permanent jibes at the club if you are not happy don't go and carry on sitting on your keyboard day in day out slagging the club off.

[quote="Ellam":2ybe24hl]Abdull pay off doesn't effect you and me and any other fans and he doesn't count on the cap so don't see the issue, the owners can afford it and will have ratified it, your just stirring the negative boring drivel you spout week in week out. Permanent jibes at the club if you are not happy don't go and carry on sitting on your keyboard day in day out slagging the club off.[/quote:2ybe24hl] Obviously a rovers fan,why does anyone engage with him/her/llama

Moy has travelled over with the squad, maybe just a coincidence he was with the injured group. EDIT: Looks like full squad has travelled so we will see

[quote="HU8HFC":1lc62ooe]Moy has travelled over with the squad, maybe just a coincidence he was with the injured group. EDIT: Looks like full squad has travelled so we will see [/quote:1lc62ooe] Yeah, Holmes is on the flight too.

it's good that we've taken everyone. An important part of the team bonding

[quote="HU8HFC":18q2o082]Moy has travelled over with the squad, maybe just a coincidence he was with the injured group. EDIT: Looks like full squad has travelled so we will see [/quote:18q2o082] Even our new overlord Thirkill has gone

[quote="mwindass":1d0m2nlu]Even our new overlord Thirkill has gone[/quote:1d0m2nlu] Has he taken his boots with him? I know this is the first game of the bright new dawn, but Thirkill running out in the halves would be a radical move, even by our off the wall standards

[quote="Ellam":2mv6npa2]Abdull pay off doesn't effect you and me and any other fans and he doesn't count on the cap so don't see the issue, the owners can afford it and will have ratified it, your just stirring the negative boring drivel you spout week in week out. Permanent jibes at the club if you are not happy don't go and carry on sitting on your keyboard day in day out slagging the club off.[/quote:2mv6npa2] If its boring drivel then dont read it My point is that Myler signed Abdull knowing full well his injury record but still gave him a 3 year deal. Of course any compensation money paid to Abdull doesnt effect fans but it does effect the clubs finances. Businessmen like our new owners dont get wealthy by throwing money away on high level risks or bad decisions by other staff. Unlike several others on here i dont spend a lot of time sitting at a keyboard day in day out. My posts on FC are there for all to see but as the new season is upon us no doubt ill have a lot more to say good or bad

[quote="Jake the Peg":3kt13zxk]Fash was ok when played at 13 with 4 decent props but he's nowhere near effective enough as a prop. Unless asiata is injured he won't get a look in at 13 obviously[/quote:3kt13zxk] Fash is not a 13. He should only ever be played at Prop.

Are we on Sky tomorrow night (red button)? Or is it just wall to wall coverage of the Pretend World Champions v Castleford, along with the opening of their new multi-million pound temporary, partially covered stand?

[quote="Rugby Raider":3nj02hvq]Are we on Sky tomorrow night (red button)? Or is it just wall to wall coverage of the Pretend World Champions v Castleford, along with the opening of their new multi-million pound temporary, partially covered stand?[/quote:3nj02hvq] Sky sports +. I use Now TV so they're all available, but think it's red button access for regular subscriptions

[quote="Rugby Raider":a8o97x44]Are we on Sky tomorrow night (red button)? Or is it just wall to wall coverage of the Pretend World Champions v Castleford, along with the opening of their new multi-million pound temporary, partially covered stand?[/quote:a8o97x44] I don't understand this. Rovers game is on two main channels (at the same time obviously!) while our game is not at all. As the game from France is being covered anyway, why not put it out as the game on SS+. I'm not saying this just because it's our game, I would be thinking this if it was, say, Leeds v Cas. It's not as if the red & white massive can watch two channels at once, they only have one tv in their new super-expanded enormodome. Believe that if you don't have a Sky Q box, you have to view our game through the SS app somehow. Still think it is an odd turn of events.

[quote="bonaire":189c1g28][quote:189c1g28]If its boring drivel then dont read it[/quote:189c1g28] My point is that Myler signed Abdull knowing full well his injury record but still gave him a 3 year deal. Of course any compensation money paid to Abdull doesnt effect fans but it does effect the clubs finances. Businessmen like our new owners don't get wealthy by throwing money away on high level risks or bad decisions by other staff. [quote:189c1g28]Unlike several others on here i don't spend a lot of time sitting at a keyboard day in day out.[/quote:189c1g28] My posts on FC are there for all to see but as the new season is upon us no doubt ill have a lot more to say good or bad[/quote:189c1g28] I'll say one thing for you, you can sure push some people's buttons on here, can't you I guess no one can ever accuse you of not eliciting an answer back while provoking debate, which to be fair is the whole idea of a forum (a sporting one or otherwise)!

[quote="Rugby Raider":1x6blei1]Fash is not a 13. He should only ever be played at Prop.[/quote:1x6blei1] He shouldn't be played then as he's hopeless as a prop. About the same go forward as joe cator