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| Just seen on Twitter that the Allam family have put North Ferriby up for sale now.
Not good timing in view of the Arena controversy. The whole family must be completely thick. Living proof that money can't buy brains
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"A totally over the top and innapropriate response to a councillor who's making positive noises about not taking this lieing down. You should be ashamed of yourself'"
"Making noises". It's the council's [ujob[/u to ensure compliance and shouldn't be dressed up as a public-spirited act of heroism. It's better than saying nothing will continue to be done, granted.
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| Quote ="anijay"Just seen on Twitter that the Allam family have put North Ferriby up for sale now.
Not good timing in view of the Arena controversy. The whole family must be completely thick. Living proof that money can't buy brains'"
I don't think it's a coincidence, they're upping the ante on all possible fronts. A real tipping point for substantive action?
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| You're probably right Mrs B.
Wish the lot of them would sell up everything and move to a desert island
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| Quote ="anijay"You're probably right Mrs B.
Wish the lot of them would sell up everything and move to a desert island'"
They'd want to change the name to Allam Island! However we have to be watchful here its only a small step to see who could be next on their hit list! At one time I'd be accused of over reacting and obviously our owner attempts at compliance with all the obsticles that have been put in our way thus far as joint tenants of the Stadium have kept them at bay, but he doesn't like us or our owner so who knows we could be next for a hit! I just hope that the conflict with the council doesnt scupper the talks on handing over the SMC to the authority to run.
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| Wilf, who would be the best person at the Council to email to register my dismay over the Airco Arena debacle? As a Hull resident and council tax payer I want to see the Council take some firm and decisive action over this before the Allams trample us all underfoot and take over the whole City.
No use contacting councillors in my ward, they are all Lib Dems and would sell the stadium like a shot if they got the chance
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"As noble rhetoric this is OK but let's be clear. Custodianship of public assets is your basic job and responsibility, including putting in place the right management arrangements and ensuring compliance. So spare us the emotive BS and act. Talk is cheap. The only substantive thing the council has done so far is not sell/gift him the stadium. Airco illustrates your loss of control and thus far lack of appetite to do what's right rather than what's easy. As Delia would say "Where are you? Let's be having you."'"
You see the problem is Mrs B, you always portray yourself as the all seeing oracle, with quotes to hand to prove your point at the drop of a hat, yet where are your newspaper clippings showing how the Lib Dems watered down the original SMC agreement? the one that has got us in this mess, your right we are custodians, but of what? we can only work with the agreement that was signed betwwen the then council and the SMC, if you think we are just sat here doing nothing it is maybe yourself that is just shouting emotional BS, like I said Hull FC and the other spots clubs have the same rights to use the facilities as Hull City AFC, We will be taking this as far as the law and the contract allows us, and you can't underestimate the part the court of public opinion will play in this matter, your personal insults are ill directed as on this matter I am firmly on the side of the small sports clubs and HULL FC, (just ask Adam) and lets be fair you really don't know whats going on.
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| Quote ="phil webbo"You see the problem is Mrs B, you always portray yourself as the all seeing oracle, with quotes to hand to prove your point at the drop of a hat, yet where are your newspaper clippings showing how the Lib Dems watered down the original SMC agreement? the one that has got us in this mess, your right we are custodians, but of what? we can only work with the agreement that was signed betwwen the then council and the SMC, if you think we are just sat here doing nothing it is maybe yourself that is just shouting emotional BS, like I said Hull FC and the other spots clubs have the same rights to use the facilities as Hull City AFC, We will be taking this as far as the law and the contract allows us, and you can't underestimate the part the court of public opinion will play in this matter, your personal insults are ill directed as on this matter I am firmly on the side of the small sports clubs and HULL FC, (just ask Adam) and lets be fair you really don't know whats going on.'"
Dont worry she'll send the other playground bullies from the hareem round
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| Quote ="phil webbo"You see the problem is Mrs B, you always portray yourself as the all seeing oracle, with quotes to hand to prove your point at the drop of a hat, yet where are your newspaper clippings showing how the Lib Dems watered down the original SMC agreement? the one that has got us in this mess, your right we are custodians, but of what? we can only work with the agreement that was signed betwwen the then council and the SMC, if you think we are just sat here doing nothing it is maybe yourself that is just shouting emotional BS, like I said Hull FC and the other spots clubs have the same rights to use the facilities as Hull City AFC, We will be taking this as far as the law and the contract allows us, and you can't underestimate the part the court of public opinion will play in this matter, your personal insults are ill directed as on this matter I am firmly on the side of the small sports clubs and HULL FC, (just ask Adam) and lets be fair you really don't know whats going on.'"
I know it's election time Phil, but look at it from another viewpoint if you are so able. There have been incremental erosions of FC's tenancy for a few years now. Hull Wasps IIRC were priced out of the arena ages ago. Perception which arguably may be totally flawed is that the council have let this go as it's been small scale and not worth the hassle of taking on a loud, dangerous (but generous Labour Party) benefactor over.. The court of public opinion might be your tipping point for action, but surely doing what's right and not easy should be the primary trigger.
We're hugely grateful for your support clearly, but your pitch about not taking it lying down as if there would be something over and above your responsibility to deal appropriately with public asset custodianship and compliance enforcement is a bit weird. If you're fulfilling this role, great. I look forward to the enforcement stage. With the sale of Ferriby and rumoured calling-in of other loans, the ante against Hull sport in its broadest sense is being upped on an hourly basis. Whilst the council 100% played a blinder in not gifting him the stadium, the question may still be asked as to whether this could have been avoided with earlier action.
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| Quote ="phil webbo"You see the problem is Mrs B, you always portray yourself as the all seeing oracle, with quotes to hand to prove your point at the drop of a hat, yet where are your newspaper clippings showing how the Lib Dems watered down the original SMC agreement? the one that has got us in this mess, your right we are custodians, but of what? we can only work with the agreement that was signed betwwen the then council and the SMC, if you think we are just sat here doing nothing it is maybe yourself that is just shouting emotional BS, like I said Hull FC and the other spots clubs have the same rights to use the facilities as Hull City AFC, We will be taking this as far as the law and the contract allows us, and you can't underestimate the part the court of public opinion will play in this matter, your personal insults are ill directed as on this matter I am firmly on the side of the small sports clubs and HULL FC, (just ask Adam) and lets be fair you really don't know whats going on.'"
Phil,
After listening to the interview of Cllr Brady, he seemed to be apprehensive regarding the cost of an injunction served to the Allams.
I hope, I speak for the majority of the citizens of Hull that irrespective of cost, the Council will serve an injunction.
If the Council fail in this matter, the Allam's will see it as carte blanche
to do as they wish, as a Hull FC supporter, it is indeed nervous times.
I back the Council 100%.
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| =#FF0000While discussion of the Council's role in this (both past and current) is perfectly valid I'd appreciate it if said discussion could be kept non-confrontational. Similarly, the usual cross-city sniping has no place in this thread. We are all trying to pull in the same direction here after all.
Thanks.
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| Quote ="Kosh"=#FF0000While discussion of the Council's role in this (both past and current) is perfectly valid I'd appreciate it if said discussion could be kept non-confrontational. Similarly, the usual cross-city sniping has no place in this thread. We are all trying to pull in the same direction here after all.
Thanks.'"
Amen......
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| Quote ="weaver93"Phil,
After listening to the interview of Cllr Brady, he seemed to be apprehensive regarding the cost of an injunction served to the Allams.
I hope, I speak for the majority of the citizens of Hull that irrespective of cost, the Council will serve an injunction.
If the Council fail in this matter, the Allam's will see it as carte blanche
to do as they wish, as a Hull FC supporter, it is indeed nervous times.
I back the Council 100%.'"
I think the time for an injunction is probably past. If, as it seems, the Allams are now in clear breach of their lease obligations then there are other avenues to pursue.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I think the time for an injunction is probably past. If, as it seems, the Allams are now in clear breach of their lease obligations then there are other avenues to pursue.'"
What would other avenues be? No idea what options are open. ![Confused icon_confused.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_confused.gif)
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| Dont worry, concerts coming back if you read yesterdays Dull Daily Fail.
The new LED floodlighting system thats going in, will offer more flexibility and be able to be adapted for concerts and stuff.
Bet its blinking good for Squash and polo
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| We can all see exactly where this is heading and I agree it is nervous times to be an FC supporter ![Sad icon_sad.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_sad.gif)
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| Quote ="shauney"We can all see exactly where this is heading and I agree it is nervous times to be an FC supporter
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It isnt really, its great that this is coming to a head and lots of others are seeing Allem for what he really is and it also seems his step too far with Airco could be great in terms of him losing the SMC. And all this when city are possibly six games away from relegation. He really is tapped in the head
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| As a purely tongue in cheek post wouldnt this be a good time to take back the SMC and hand over to the Councils new Private leisure company to run.....With an experienced Commercial Manager there could be some short term pain but surely for long term gain??? There are some seroius cons but also many pros!!!!!
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| Quote ="barham red"Well done for completely missing the point I was making a turning it into a club vs club issue.'"
I am 100% sure that the overwhelming majority of HKR fans would offer exactly the same support to HFC that their fans showed HKR in their darkest moments during the bad times.
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| Quote ="Structured"I am 100% sure that the overwhelming majority of HKR fans would offer exactly the same support to HFC that their fans showed HKR in their darkest moments during the bad times.'"
Did you not read Kosh's post Zoddy? No place for it on this thread.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"It isnt really, its great that this is coming to a head and lots of others are seeing Allem for what he really is and it also seems his step too far with Airco could be great in terms of him losing the SMC. And all this when city are possibly six games away from relegation. He really is tapped in the head'"
He should be tapped in the head.
Preferrably a double-tap
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| Quote ="Structured"I am 100% sure that the overwhelming majority of HKR fans would offer exactly the same support to HFC that their fans showed HKR in their darkest moments during the bad times.'"
I don't actually see this as a Hull FC issue or supporting Hull FC in a time of need. This is a much wider issue that fundamentally affects us all. He is asset stripping the SMC of assets he doesn't own and using them for a company he does own Hull City.
I've never understood the SMC being run by football people from day 1, its not a football asset as its equally not a rugby asset. Its a council 'people of Hull' asset that should be used for the people of Hull.
The fact that FC lease the stadium for there matches is as irrelevant to the argument of our support for them, that says I've become a trampolining fan because I think its wrong to throw them out.
The stadium and its surrounding facilities should be independently run as a business. Rent from City and FC should be independently assessed and set at a figure that allows the stadium to at least wipe its face. If City or FC can't afford that sum then questions around the viability of either the stadium or the clubs gets called into question. Then I as a council tax payer wouldn't want either financially supporting with my money.
The issue being discussed here is not an FC one, (it may become one if a certain megalomaniac makes hos next move) its Hull residents issue as Hull City have taken an asset I could have used and made it for the sole use of an Allam business.
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| @RadioHumberside: NEWS: Hull CC write to the SMC asking for the removal of the 3G pitch at the #Airco Arena. Failure to comply could result in legal action
Maybe hcc has had enough?
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| On top of the community clubs that have lost their home;
No more top flight netball being brought to the city either. Yorkshire Jets used to split their home games between Leeds, Sheffield & Hull, attracting a few hundred fans to their games and televised on sky.
There isn't anywhere else in the city suitable to stage their games.
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