It's a NO for Tony Smith from me- Des Hasler may well be available. Shane Flanagan isn't coaching.

More chance of Hodgson getting his job back then Jez Litten becomming top class. I dont think Dwyer will stay beyond his contract at the club, hes just a stop gap.

We had to do something and I am very skeptical with regards to Smith. Hes always good at starting a project but very rarely sees it through. I remember when he played Senior injured in the 2005 final and wouldnt admit he was wrong to do so.

I think the success he had at KR is always blown out of proportion, he did ok but spent alot of time near the bottom. I think alot of people think his appointment will change our placing in the table immediatley and I am not so sure it will. I certainley wouldnt have us down as certs for the play off with him in charge next season. Hes never really had an immediate impact anywhere, it will take him two seasons at least IMO which is why I dont think its viable as a short term option. You cant brimg a head coach in to sing somebody elses tune.

I dont know why but cant help but think his appointment will blow up in our face.

Thats exactly as i see it, - fans always seem to overhype our `young guns.'
The only ones i've been impressed with are Balmforth & Litten (although tbf i haven't seen enough of some of the others)
Over the last 3 or 4 years, S.L players we've produced are 3 small forwards (Brown Fash & Lane), Scott, Wynne, & Jez Litten, - hardly inspiring!
Is there a Murphy, Pryce or Wellsby coming through? - Doubt it.
Shenton seems to be doing a great job but I suspect the Academy is a well coached, well drilled unit,with plenty of good players, but no real stars.
& you're dead right about about Longstaff, needs to be signed if possible.

Take your black and white specs off for a moment. I know it’s difficult to acknowledge that a player you let go might be a success. More independent observers obviously see things in him you apparently don’t. That is of course supposing you actually see enough of him to form a reasoned opinion.

It saddens me to see that the mighty Hull FC are reduced to signing players as a stop gap. I remember when they had a plan for the future and signed players who were expected to help move that plan forward. How the mighty seem to have fallen if your assessment of Dwyer is correct.

They is no black and white specs here, I call it as I see it and have no interest in if he played for us or not. He may be a good player at some point in his career but to even think he can reach the heights of Hodgson is beyond rose tinted.

We never let him go either he decided to leave which again bears no reflection on ourselves. Id also love to go to this fantasy time where we signed players for the future we sign past it players all the time.

I mean the only person being bitter here is yourself who seems to be taking a shine to a topic about our now ex coach and potential new one.

Michael McGuire - move for him ASAP

So you have hardly seen these youngsters play but they are overhyped. I'd say there are a few potential stars in the academy, the ones that stand out for me are Balmforth, Staverly, Martin, Medforth, Laidlaw, Armstrong and Severs. I few others could also make good SL players like Moy and Jebson.

Add in to this Hookem, Litten and Barron, I think we are in good position, to start bringing through 2 or 3 players a year.

For me if Balmforth can get fit, he has potential to be the best player at his age.

Doesn't finish off a project? He was at Leeds 4 years and won 2 grand finals, including their first in SL history. Leeds also won the next two grand finals after he left

He then spent about 8 years at Warrington, winning 3 challenge cups, 2 LL shields abd making a few grand finals.

His time at Rovers was hit and miss, but still made the play offs for the first time in over 10 years.

There are a few things you can doubt Smith about, but you can't say he doesn't finish jobs and he has improved every club he has been at.

If he starts to improve us particularly discipline, mentally and picks players on form rather than reputation then he has done a good job.

Litten is a very good SL player and we (radford) made the mistake of not playing him more meaning he rightly wanted to leave.

I don't see Dwyer as a stop gap, more playing it safe and giving out long contracts (I'm sure Rovers sometimes give out one year deals or at least wish they had at times).

You would honestly think Rovers have had an amazing season and have recruited a world class coach and signings for next year based on some Rovers fans criticism of our club.

There isn't much between the clubs, if Smith comes in and we sign a couple more I think we will challenge the play offs next season.

The recruitment of Hoy, Sutcliffe, Trueman and Dwyer vastly improves out 17, with no real losses except Mau, add to this the young players a year older, more experienced and bigger I'm feeling alot confident with impending coaching changes.

Smith will certainly be better for you than Hodgson has been, he has experience and wont be phased by criticism and the pressure of the job. He 's a hard one to call at his time with us, he certainly made us better and looked to be heading in the right direction but without a crystal ball we'll never know if that was sustainable or if he was a short step from us blowing up, He's a hard man to really like and it seems he fell out with a lot of people in his time with but does that matter if it works? As a lot on here said we got to the paly offs in a year that wasn't exaxtly normal.



This was our biggest criticism of him, our discipline was shocking and he seemed to keep picking players regardless of form or definitely fitness, picking the likes of Coote and flogging King the week before a cup semi was criminal.

Pearson has both sacked Hodgson and will get Smith in based on pass sales alone. It's obvious that had he done nothing the sales would have plummeted, the Hodgson out chants, empty stadium and micro survey of forums alone show that.

If nothing else it'll be interesting

Some fair points BR, I think you could find negatives about just about every coach or certainly ones that are potentially available, even Wane and McGuire have had negative comments about them after been linked with us.

I do think he is the best option that we can realistically get and think he has more positives than negatives about him.

Fully agree with all of your post, he seemed a very genuine and caring guy, who had at the end lost the players, which can only ever end one way. He looked broken, I thought, after the Wakefield game and my wife, who doesn't follow any sport but works in healthcare, saw him interviewed, when he looked almost in tears, and she expressed concern over his mental health. Maybe it will be better for him in the long run, he obviously cared but didn't possess the ability to turn it around.

This is it. He's a proven head coach and available now. He's got a track record of turning failing clubs around

AP said in his statement:

A new head coach will be appointed in the near future to ensure they have a full pre-season to prepare the squad for the 2023 campaign.
 
This rules out Wane and Madge. They'll both have WC commitments.

Never been a big fan of Smith so not sure about this appointment. Paul Cooke described him on RH last night as weird and complex or something similar.

That said he's obviously hugely experienced and last year the RL world was eulogising about his ability to galvanise a squad and deliver big improvements, which you'd say are top of our list of requirements.

He may be a bit odd, but lasted 4 years at Leeds (his choice to leave) and 8 years at Warrington (his choice to leave) so you wonder how odd he can be, strange behavior, partciculay at the end (but you have to wonder how much was Larkins fault) at Rovers, but they are a strange club.

That’s the line that keeps us interested year after year. A player who has been injured for most of the year will be back and ‘like a new signing’ is another favourite.

Ending the season with a derby win was a pleasant salve but I find it hard to keep buying into those arguments. I’ve no real interest in watching the play-offs and I’d pay a fee not to have to watch another Saints-Wigan GF, if that were required. Salford-Hudds might pique my interest, tbf.

So, surely Kennedy, Opacic and Sue will offer more than Sims, Vete and Takairangi. And Jordan Abdull will be like a new signing. And the youngsters on the fringes of the squad will be a year older and better. But SKD, Linnett and Hall will also be a year older. Experience tells us we’ll lose another important player to long-term injury. And a lot of young players never ‘kick on’.

I’m somewhat optimistic. Peters and Delaney have both been willing to talk about winning. Which, after Sandercock’s red hot cracks, Chester saying we had to make sure we enjoyed the day, Peacock’s plan, Sheens wanting to play some footy and Smith wanting to entertain the fans, almost feels like a win in itself. Peters has even talked about winning trophies. I can’t make my mind up whether that is extremely ambitious or worryingly delusional. That’s the thrill of uncertainty that makes sport so compelling but which seems to be in ever shorter supply.

Edit - sorry, that’s some very Rovers-centric miserabilism for the Hull board.

Although it is always sad when anyone loses their jobs, the decision to remove Brett, and his assistant, along with the head of the fitness team as well, are actions which were needed, and hopefully it can help the club and it’s magnificent supporters who have had their fair sure of mediocrity and turmoil move forward to a brighter future.

Whoever AP recruits he has my full support, but to add my worthless two penny worth, out of the candidate’s who have been touted, if Madge is available, isn’t he just what Hull need, wouldn’t he have them fit, which we never seem to be, wouldn’t he instil the collective that has disappeared, and those who couldn’t keep up with his regime will fall by the wayside, he was if I remember correctly a revolutionary at Wigan, with high demands of performance and fitness, I’m probably just dreaming of this kind of appointment, but if I could choose it would be this little Aussie who could, if it is possible, change our apathetic approach to rugby league.

Maybe he was just got freaked out eventually by the 6 fingers and 7 toes that side of the river



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Joking aside I must admit to being unsure about Smith for some reason even though he has a good track record, maybe it's just due to the fact that Hodgson's appointment didn't work out and the same issues remain or the way he left Rovers or that he has been at Rovers. Maybe it's that Smith doesn't to me seem to be the disciplinarian we probably need but then he does seem to be a very good man manager and gets improvements out the players he has.

Just hope and have my fingers crossed that for once we get the appointment of Head Coach and Assistant right whoever it is and they right the wrongs that are ingrained in the clubs players.

If true, Jason Davidson would be a fantastic appointment. Very highly thought of at Leeds and players and fans alike seem guuted he's leaving

Totally agree Rider, for me if it was between Tony Smith or Michael Maguire I'd probably favour Maguire.

The only thing I'd say is Madge was unable to turn the Tigers around. In fact they got worse.

Wests are bonkers, but I don't think we're far off them in the crazy stakes to be honest

He would be a good signing. He trained Leeds' golden generation. Where did you hear it?

Leeds aside, you have to look at Huddersfield. Walking away from his advisory role with the RFL and the GB role. He never saw the end game at Warrington and if I remember rightly his last season at the club was a bad one. You have to factor he took over Leeds in a better position then we are currentley in, the same with Wire.

Ive no doubt he can improve us but this isnt going to be an overnight project. People need to calm down on tbat front, it will take seasons before we would be genuinley challenging. Thats why I dont believe him comjng for 12 months is a smart move, its a waste of a year. Time the club doesnt have.

Id happily be wrong but you have to think getting within 20 points of St Helens in a game would be a vast improvement. That is where this playing group is. We cant compete with 6th or 7th let alone those higher up.

If we get Smith and he is prepared to stick arpund as head coach then we must back him as a whole from supporters down to academy. Will the fanbase still be as complimentary if we finish 8th again ? Given he is a proven head coach like you have said that has honours.

I maybe have seen too many false dawns but I have reservations which I would happily be proved wrong with.

I can't speak for anyone else but if Smith managed to get a fairly consistent season out of us with the team at least being in the fight every game, even finishing 8th, I'd consider that an improvement. I'm sick of starting well and then just imploding.