probably wouldn't have to pay him off, if he became "available" can see several clubs been interested and perhaps even paying a small fee?!? Our green eyed cousins and crusaders to name but a few?..dobbins for obvious reasons and crusaders for their "developing" status. Quins also have quota space to accomodate iirc.

There wasn't any "panic" involved at all IMO. Sam is a very good impact prop and could become much much better, given his age and obvious commitment. Props like him are like hens teeth in this country and he certainly deserves his place in our squad. The strange thing appears to be Agar's reluctance to play him.

Without Sam we would only have four props, three of which are grafters and offer close to zero impact/go-forward.

Agar has a hard choice to make for Castleford when Tansey is back. I'd probably go with this :

1 Whiting
2 Calderwood
3 Hall
4 Yeaman
5 T. Briscoe
6 Horne
7 Tansey

Bit unfair on Turner but he'll get more games during the season, no doubt he'll be a top player, but Tansey is a different class at the moment and we need to get him in there and involved a lot.

We won't go for finch. Would be a huge chunk of salary cap on 3 half backs

I'd don't think the Moa deal is a mistake as over the season he'll start to play, Radford, O'Meley, Dowes and Cusack wont all play every game. I can see Moa becoming the mainstay of our pack, a bit like Vagana did at Bradford. I'd play Moa now if I were up to me, rather him than Cusack. I think Cusack's extension was the mistake not Moa.

If we let moa go who will sign to replace him and cusack next season?

Agree, I honeslty believe it was fan pressure.

The one prop I'd like to see us go would be McCarthy Scarsbrook. But only get rid of Cusack.

Maybe moa should go out on loan to a bottom end SL side. rovers maybe?

Agreed! Think most of this thread is a bit pointless, as, after his second half volley I have it on good authority that Phil Brown has offered him a contract in a part exchange deal and we're playing Jan Vinegar of Hessleroad at full back against Cas.

On Moa - may be worth a one month loan to a Championship/Super League side to get him some match fitness, then when the ground is firmer, use him as an impact sub.

On Whiting - great game v Quins, he'd be a breathtaking player with that extra yard of pace but even without he is a top quality player, and very under-rated. He's a player who you'd rather have in your squad than against, due to his fantastic game-reading ability, tackling and strength in returning the ball.

Stick Tansey as the hooker/back substitute v Cas and keep Whiting as full back.

Don't agree with all this send Moa out on loan. If a player gets sent out on loan then they are away from the club for at least a month. If we an injury to a prop next week say, then were knackered, with no other props available (unless Lauaki counts).

Radford
Dowes
O'Meley
Cusack
Lauaki

And the potential to use Fitzgibbon/Burnett as an additional prop. I'd say we look pretty strong and could cope with sending Moa out on loan for a month before the Easter games.

will become one of the best in the league

is this thread about whiting or moa?

It's about Dave Whiting-Moa our new scrum half

Wouldn't have Fitzgibbon there, would be wasted and Burnett is no where near big enough. So theres :

Radford
O'Meley
Cusack
Dowes
Lauaki (who wouldn't be as effective as he is in the back row)

We need Moa available in my opinion.

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As for being away for a month, Not anymore they don't!

Still the same for loans, its the dual contract that have a instant recall IIRC

And if your Wigan , you can loan out players who are already dual contracted !!!

I know we can never make him into a super-fast player but surely some specialist sprint training would make a huge difference? Do FC ever get involved with this sort of thing nowadays?

Increasing someones speed is actually notoriously difficult to do.

Borderline impossible.

I think Patrick Beth might have something to say about that.

Surely all sprinters have coaches who work on their technique to improve acceleration and overall speed. Whiting doesn't need to do a 10 second hundred metres but a little work might improve him by 0.5 sec +. That would be a big difference for him.