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| Quote ="barham red"All money issues and whether the council is right or wrong aside this logic baffles me. The south stand problem I understand but to say you'd never go regardless just doesn't stack up. I've been to some of the worst grounds in the country to watch my team and would go anywhere (cash allowing). There was me thinking you where supposedly part of the faithful best fans in the country
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How the hell can we put the money issues asides,re-read my post that is the crux of it !!
I am part of the faithful, but I work hard and why the heck should I let your stupid bitter little chairman rip me off!! he thinks he is clever charging the faithful more than any-one else...well not me!
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| Quote ="cod'ead"He's far too busy telling a multi award-winning and internationally renowned theatre company that "they should start standing on their own feet".
So much for culture eh?'"
Not hard to believe, I mean the guy is sooooooooooo classy
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I find this money from the council a bit obscene and would do if it was for Hull FC. At a time when the country is skint I can't see the justification for this.'"
Of course you would!
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"For me its the point that the Rotterdam end is £10 for every other team yet Grudge feels the need to charge Hull fans £18 for a Stevie Wonder view.
The choice of the golf stand would be nice, seen as there is no legal segregation in RL'"
I got in the golf stand no problem last season and there were still tickets available to buy online the day before the game. The only downside was that i got a Rovers season pass form through the post because i bought a ticket from their online office.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Of course you would!
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| Quote ="Easty"A figure of £54000 has being mentioned as a repayment figure per annum. Now if we attract an extra 3000 Hull fans for the derby due to the North stand with those Hull fans each paying £18 each then i make that the £54000 per annum needed to pay for the loan repayment any extra is a bonus.'"
Ah the return of Master mind! I would be careful if I was you after your previous catastrophies!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I find this money from the council a bit obscene and would do if it was for Hull FC. At a time when the country is skint I can't see the justification for this.'"
If it does turn out to be a loan, possibly with the council being the guarantor rather than the lender or recipient, will you be happier?
After Hull got a share of a £40m+ gift, complaints about Rovers getting a share of a £4m loan would seem very mean spirited to me. Essentially the only remaining option would be the council saying f-off and take your vision of a multi-purpose community facility, long-term SL participation and £2m pound European development grant with you. Is that what you think would be doing the right thing by KuH? Looking at this thread, I suppose that is a rhetorical question.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"If it does turn out to be a loan, possibly with the council being the guarantor rather than the lender or recipient, will you be happier?
After Hull got a share of a £40m+ gift, complaints about Rovers getting a share of a £4m loan would seem very mean spirited to me. Essentially the only remaining option would be the council saying f-off and take your vision of a multi-purpose community facility, long-term SL participation and £2m pound European development grant with you. Is that what you think would be doing the right thing by KuH? Looking at this thread, I suppose that is a rhetorical question.'"
It's the timing that is the big thing for me. We are talking about 7,000 people in east Hull that watch Rovers, do they really warrant this type of spend when so many other services are being cut? At least if it's a loan then it makes it a bit easier to understand but what hapens if Rovers can't make the payments in 4 years time? Also who is paying the interest in the first four years, as Rovers are on a basic rent during this time.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"It's the timing that is the big thing for me. We are talking about 7,000 people in east Hull that watch Rovers, do they really warrant this type of spend when so many other services are being cut? At least if it's a loan then it makes it a bit easier to understand but what hapens if Rovers can't make the payments in 4 years time? Also who is paying the interest in the first four years, as Rovers are on a basic rent during this time.'"
I think some of the reporting has been, if not inaccurate then misleading.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"If it does turn out to be a loan, possibly with the council being the guarantor rather than the lender or recipient, will you be happier?
=#0040FFAfter Hull got a share of a £40m+ gift, complaints about Rovers getting a share of a £4m loan would seem very mean spirited to me. Essentially the only remaining option would be the council saying f-off and take your vision of a multi-purpose community facility, long-term SL participation and £2m pound European development grant with you. Is that what you think would be doing the right thing by KuH? Looking at this thread, I suppose that is a rhetorical question.'"
How many 'gifts' do you pay rent on? And a share of the self-same 'gift' was offered to Rovers. Not our fault that you turned it down.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I think some of the reporting has been, if not inaccurate then misleading.'"
I don't doubt that for a second, it's still essentially £4m for 7000 people though.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I don't doubt that for a second, it's still essentially £4m for 7000 people though.'"
I'd count it as about £1.3m (with the other 2 partners taking roughly [uequal[/u shares). All three partners intend to repay the loan. If loan it be.
Even at £4 million and counting the fans of FC and City works out per capita better value than the KC.
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I've said before that if the offer was made again it'd have to be looked at if it was the only one on the table. Would that have been your preferred option?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I've said before that if the offer was made again it'd have to be looked at if it was the only one on the table. Would that have been your preferred option?'"
Not me - I like the way things turned out just fine. Always amuses me when the whole 'KC gift' thing gets trotted out by Rovers fans though. And as I don't live in Hull I'm not even contributing towards Rovers 'gift' so I'm not getting worked up about that either. Compared with my council wasting £4m on a bus lane that isn't needed and nobody wants it looks like decent value for money.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Not me - I like the way things turned out just fine.'"
So we're both happy.
Quote ="Kosh"Always amuses me when the whole 'KC gift' thing gets trotted out by Rovers fans though. And as I don't live in Hull I'm not even contributing towards Rovers 'gift' so I'm not getting worked up about that either. Compared with my council wasting £4m on a bus lane that isn't needed and nobody wants it looks like decent value for money.
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Don't begrudge you lot the KC. Hope Cas, Wakey and Salford get sorted out. It's all good for RL. People can talk about the economic situation but unless the RFL relax their franchise criteria to reflect it, those imperatives remain. The punchline to the advice of 'wait, wait, wait...' would be '... too late; ha ha'. This we know.
If it is a loan, which I believe it is, you can look forward to plenty more amusement in the future.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"If it is a loan, which I believe it is, you can look forward to plenty more amusement in the future.
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| Quote Council papers seen by the Mail stressed that a decision not to support the plans could 'jeopardise the club's Super League status, with potentially serious consequences'. KR's progress hinged on the outcome.'"
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Another reason to hate the Council
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| The local authority has agreed to[u chase European funding [/uto spend £4.2m on the project.(as read from HDM)
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"The local authority has agreed to[u chase European funding [/uto spend £4.2m on the project.(as read from HDM)
the funding could yet get turned down yet,could it not?'"
You can but hope.
At least you've got the decency not to pretend!
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| I think the council's freedom of information team may be very busy as they will have to supply the answers to anyone about the deal.It does seem a little hazy as who will be providing the adult education? (at a time when the fund for adult education has been slashed and 5 minutes from the multi million pound freedom centre which Hull adult eduction is already based in).
[urlhttp://www.hullcc.gov.uk/portal/page?_pageid=221,52569&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL[/url
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"You can but hope.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Lets hope the Golf Stand doesnt fall to bits when they try to move it'" Yes because it is obviously that unsafe that it got condemed...................Oh wait not it didn't.
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