If evidence were needed as to Agar's real ability to motivate a team to produce a performance when it really mattered tonight was it. He's not good enough by a long chalk. We are wasting season after season with him at the helm.

but you say they wont come to hull but if the club really shows ambition and uses the money that we have im sure theres plenty of coaches that would love to come to hull, why would nathan brown go to huddersfield

I think we should aim for the Floodlit 9s and Fairplay trophy again.

Plenty of room to spit @ the Galpharm - dirty flegger.

Time to go for me.

Not a knee jerk reaction, I can accept losing but we went out with a whimper. Our attacking play tonight has probably been filmed as it will be the best cure for insomnia that I have seen.

At the end of the day there can't be many players left in the squad that Agar has not as head coach either signed or re-signed so the 'it's not his team' excuse cannot be wheeled out again. St Helens game at home aside he seems incapable of changing a game once we fall behind.

So although he seems a nice guy, for me it should be

Mr Agar

We're spending up to the cap limit, and have done with (I heard) one exception for years. There is no more money to spend on players no matter how much cash we generate.

3 years of absolute nothingness (is that a word?) under him. Time for him to go, he hasn't improved as a coach by 1%.

says it all...weve got too many crap players on good money......and who will we be signing for next season? will sharp


let the good times roll/...........NOT...

Coaches are defined by what they achieve at the end of each season. This is Agar's third 'end of season' and each has ended in disapointment. While there has been promise and hope, we only have to look at what has been achieved at Wigan and Warrington to see what can be achieved by a quality coach working with with quality players, and that reflects very badly on Mr Agar.

I dont think that anyone doubts that we have some high quality players at Hull FC but - what could we achieve with a good coach? I cant stop thinking that Warrington is where we could be! Make no mistake - the Wolves have overtaken us and are much more worthy claimants of 'top four' status than we are.

We're also rans.
We're mid table.
We're underachieving. Massively.

What are we going to do about it?

Well St Helens didn't have a problem in appointing an Australian No.2 in Royce Simmonds.

But we do seem to scrimp on the coach, which is surely the most important area to spend money in?

This has been admitted and the club is in the process of changing it's pay policy as a result.

There have been years of mismanagement of recruitment and retention. With the best will in the world it's not going to be fixed in one season.

You'll get no argument from me there.

thats an understatement..the fact that radford has a new 2 year deal is the biggest joke ive heard for ages, when is the club going to sort that out!!??

Going by what we've done in previous years, continue to buy passes and shirts in record numbers.



Seriously, I agree with everything you say. For all people say we've been crying out for a scrum half, we've got one now but he's got no runners to work with.

I'm not Radford's biggest fan by any means, but the alternative was going into next season without enough props.

Yes we are AFTER signing Long, Fitz and Ogre. But prior to that we could have thrown money at other players who were under contract.

Still is with Cusack and Dowes going. At least we might see Moa for more than 2 x 5 minute stints a game

We've had 3 years of coaching mismanagement by someone masquerading as a super league coach and calling themselves Richard Agar, with another 2 seasons of the same rubbish to come. That should be the boards first priority, binning him!

As I posted in a previous thread, when I hear James Rule spout on in the media about Agar "needing time to get his players and build his team" one name proves that Rule is talking a load of s**t.

Michael Maguire

My take on Agar.

A solid season without being spectacular. The squad has become stronger and we have improved our position in the league dramtically.

Still work to do but we have a much better platform next season for a year ago.

Far too sensible that statement paul, you didnt mention sacking the coach or slagged any players get a grip man!!


better team won end of story, holidays for a month now in florida !!!, will be booked and paid for tomorrow, live with it, and move on ...

yeh but still not good enough all this nonsence about weve improved on the last 2 seeason ect is rubbish its not that hard to improve on finishing bottom and next to bottom if you dont include the promoted teams. for a team of our size and the money that is spent after winning the challenge cup and finishing 2nd and getting to a grand final we should of progressed and built on that but we dint and now coz weve had a year were weve finished 6th and havent won a playoff game again some people see that as progress and are quite happy with the season


just not good enough

Not sure 12th to 7th is "dramatic". It's still worse than 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007.