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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"One possible scenario? There's plenty, but that would put in the realms of the weak and feeble minded jumping to conclusions and half cocked theories on here. Seriously, if you can't even see the obvious two, then there's precious little wonder you're not understanding the situation and blaming football.'"
Humour me and point out the 'obvious two'.
And once again, I haven't blamed soccer for anything.
Quote ="My Uncle Harry"True, but this isn't really all that big outside of the M62 is it.'"
It's an International against the World Champions. It would get a certain amount of national coverage.
Quote ="My Uncle Harry"But others are claiming that this is a hotbed of RL, surely it's better to have it an hour down the road in a bigger ground so more of them can see it? The equivalent in Union would fill the KC more than three times over.'"
Irrelevant.
Quote ="My Uncle Harry"I admire your optimism, but question the logic of asking one of the opponents of teh whole stadium concept for their support. '"
I suggested contacting the Council, not a particular member.
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| Whilst I admire your restraint Kosh, I will say it for you. The guys a first rate TIT.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Humour me and point out the 'obvious two'.
I've zero intention of getting drawn into that. If you can't work them out it's not for me to waste my time explaining. Apart from that, Admin get stroppy if threads veer off topic.
And once again, I haven't blamed soccer for anything.
Once again, Bravo. I'll see if I can arrange a medal for you.
It's an International against the World Champions. It would get a certain amount of national coverage. Perhaps. It depends on how important that 'certain amount' is. There have been occasions with RL when no coverage would have been better for the profile.
Irrelevant.
To you perhaps, but gives a bit of context to the claims and demonstrates the stupidity of the outrage when linked to claims of it being a rugby mad area.
I suggested contacting the Council, not a particular member.'"
Right, so two medals then?
Why are you people getting touchy? All I'm pointing out is that it's silly to blame football for your problems when most of you admit to not having one solitary fact on the subject. Or do you really believe looking small minded has benefits to your argument?
AS I keep saying, I've expressed no views on it being right or wrong, just pointed out the stupidity of some of the arguments.
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| what a pi$$ take. i have attended every international at the kc, the stadium was built with our money, how has this been allowed to happen? do ypu think this is why fc play every friday night now as there are no premier league games at this time?
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| Quote ="red al"what a pi$$ take. i have attended every international at the kc, the stadium was built with our money, how has this been allowed to happen? do ypu think this is why fc play every friday night now as there are no premier league games at this time?
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No. In fact I'm certain that it isn't.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Why are you people getting touchy?'"
I'm not in the slightest bit touchy, thanks for your concern.
However, your constant avoidance of my questions coupled with your deliberately inflammatory language leads me to believe that you are simply trolling and looking to start an argument. If you carry on in that vein you can take a short break from posting on here.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Quote ="me 'n' our kid"
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I see you ignored the suggestion to read the posts again minus the small minded attitude you suffer from.
I'm not speaking on behalf of Duffen, I'm simply pointing out that you're running off at the mouth without having ANY facts at all. That's the mark of a fool.
Besty, if there's really such an interest as you claim, the KC far too small for it.
'" '" The KC is 'big enough' for us and the select few that actually enjoy their chosen sport......Not the hoolies, bandwagoners and Stone Island models that are wanting extra seating.......just in case the ever changing (ie foreigners......ask Deano what he thinks ) Hull City actually make their 'miracle stint' in the premiership last longer than the expected 1 year.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"
Besty, if there's really such an interest as you claim, the KC far too small for it.
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Do you expect several million people to travel from the southern hemisphere to see the game in person?
It's good news for the city as a whole to be able to stage this sort of event, while not knowing the reasons for the SMC not wanting to play ball i can't comment. But Duffen should make the reasons known, he is after all the head of a company running the facility on behalf of the council. If he thinks it may interupt with city's fixtures, or damage the pitch or it's going to clash with Iron Maiden playing the KC then the least he could do is come out and give his reasons, thats not unacceptable to expect surely. Being unnavailable for comment is a copout.
I'm doing my best not to make this a Hull fc v Hull city thing.
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| Quote ="Kosh"No. In fact I'm certain that it isn't.'" oh no, its because you had a vote on the matter did'nt you! i reckon it was a major factor to save any embaressment of fc having to move a fixture when sky or setanta decided to show a live city game on saturday evening or sunday afternoon, the time when most sl games take place! anyway i still feel the rl fans ofthe city have been cheated out of an international game!
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| Quote ="BESTY"Do you expect several million people to travel from the southern hemisphere to see the game in person?
It's good news for the city as a whole to be able to stage this sort of event, while not knowing the reasons for the SMC not wanting to play ball i can't comment. But Duffen should make the reasons known, he is after all the head of a company running the facility on behalf of the council. If he thinks it may interupt with city's fixtures, or damage the pitch or it's going to clash with Iron Maiden playing the KC then the least he could do is come out and give his reasons, thats not unacceptable to expect surely. Being unnavailable for comment is a copout.
I'm doing my best not to make this a Hull fc v Hull city thing.'"
Good, because it's that element of the 'argument' from some of the small minded types on here that caused me to comment.
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| Quote ="BESTY"Do you expect several million people to travel from the southern hemisphere to see the game in person?
It's good news for the city as a whole to be able to stage this sort of event, while not knowing the reasons for the SMC not wanting to play ball i can't comment. But Duffen should make the reasons known, he is after all the head of a company running the facility on behalf of the council. If he thinks it may interupt with city's fixtures, or damage the pitch or it's going to clash with Iron Maiden playing the KC then the least he could do is come out and give his reasons, thats not unacceptable to expect surely. Being unnavailable for comment is a copout.
I'm doing my best not to make this a Hull fc v Hull city thing.'" I can fully understand if Iron Maiden are due to play the KC......
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm not in the slightest bit touchy, thanks for your concern.
You're welcome
However, your constant avoidance of my questions Eh? I've explained why I didn't answer the ONE issue questioned.
coupled with your deliberately inflammatory language Not inflamatory at all, unlike some of the comments aimed my way simply for pointing out their errors. leads me to believe that you are simply trolling and looking to start an argument then you believe wrong. If you carry on in that vein you can take a short break from posting on here. For what? Asking why some people are making allegations that they themselves admit are baseless? Give your head a shake.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Good, because it's that element of the 'argument' from some of the small minded types on here that caused me to comment.'"
So what about the rest of my post? how do feel about that, agree or disagree?
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Good, because it's that element of the 'argument' from some of the small minded types on here that caused me to comment.'" So if the chairman of the SMC just so happened to be our Chief Executive James Rule and he stopped the england football team from playing against Italy and would not give any reason, or answer any questions you would not think it was a decision made for rugby gains?? Get real.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So if the chairman of the SMC just so happened to be our Chief Executive James Rule and he stopped the england football team from playing against Italy and would not give any reason, or answer any questions you would not think it was a decision made for rugby gains?? Get real.'"
I'm real, by their own admission in their posts, others clearly aren't.
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| Quote ="BESTY"So what about the rest of my post? how do feel about that, agree or disagree?'"
Regarding the travelling, if people were coming from the Southern Hemisphere, I doubt 60 miles here or there would be an issue. I assume you're referring to my point that according to the views of some regarding this 'rugby mad city' it'd be better playing it at a bigger stadium anyway.
I agree that as far as is possible, the full reasons for the refusal should be made public.
I agree that the game should be accomodated if at all possible.
I'm not as convinced as you of the value of such games to the City of Hull, but that's a whole seperate argument. I only mention it so you don't think I'm simply avoiding it.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"I'm real, by their own admission in their posts, others clearly aren't.'" So your not going to answer my question then?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So your not going to answer my question then?'"
I didn't realise you meant it as a serious point, it's so far removed from the current situation and reality. The KC wouldn't be big enough for such a game anyway and I can't imagine any City chairman not wanting some say in the SMC. Plus, there are checks and balances in place which mean the decisions cannot be made unilaterally anyway.
So in short, in the unlikely event your scenario ever occured, I wouldn't blame James Rule (who ever he is) until I'd heard some information from reputable sources.
You've only to read this thread to see how stupid playing guessing games makes you look.
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| Quote ="red al"oh no, its because you had a vote on the matter did'nt you!'"
No. It was a purely commercial decision.
Or do you think that all the other clubs that have moved to Friday night have done so to avoid clashing with soccer as well?
Quote ="red al"i reckon'"
Nobody cares what you reckon. You are clearly clueless.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"I didn't realise you meant it as a serious point, it's so far removed from the current situation and reality. The KC wouldn't be big enough for such a game anyway and I can't imagine any City chairman not wanting some say in the SMC. Plus, there are checks and balances in place which mean the decisions cannot be made unilaterally anyway.
So in short, in the unlikely event your scenario ever occured, I wouldn't blame James Rule (who ever he is) until I'd heard some information from reputable sources.
You've only to read this thread to see how stupid playing guessing games makes you look.'" Sorry mate, given how argumentative you have been on this subject i find that hard to believe.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Sorry mate, given how argumentative you have been on this subject i find that hard to believe.'"
Why? I've argued people should reserve their vitriol until they've got at least some facts. How would that conflict with what I've put in response to you?
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Why? I've argued people should reserve their vitriol until they've got at least some facts. How would that conflict with what I've put in response to you?'" So.....Just say we are right to assume that Duffen is dicking us out of an international RL game 'cos it 'MIGHT' interfere with a trivial soccer game that 'MIGHT' be planned at the KC, BUT COULD EASILY BE ALTERED!!!!!!!!! (we, or Hull City don't know this yet)........Then, will you fianally join with other sensible City fans in saying that THIS IS ALL TOTALLY OUT OF ORDER AND DUFFEN IS VERGING ON SCUMMERY AT ITS WORST?
Or are you as bad as him?
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| Quote ="CHEWIE7"So.....Just say we are right to assume that Duffen is dicking us out of an international RL game 'cos it 'MIGHT' interfere with a trivial soccer game that 'MIGHT' be planned at the KC, BUT COULD EASILY BE ALTERED!!!!!!!!! (we, or Hull City don't know this yet)........Then, will you fianally join with other sensible City fans in saying that THIS IS ALL TOTALLY OUT OF ORDER AND DUFFEN IS VERGING ON SCUMMERY AT ITS WORST?
Or are you as bad as him?
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Do you realy expect to be taken seriously or are you happy to be seen as an attention seeking, childish fool?
Anyway I've answered what I think your point is earlier.
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