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| Quote ="DessyH"Yes I have seen the catalans try's. Fonua does make a poor read for Andersons first. This isn't a Fonua bashing and I agree that the right side needs to work a little better together.
But the point here is that Logan got dropped for less and I think he deserves an opportunity again'"
You are making assumptions here.
Check out the Catalan away game on You Tube. Notice their tries (both Pat Richards) were scored in almost identical plays to the ones Richards scored at the KC on Friday. Fonua was not playing in France. Its a weakness on that side for us with Catalans have exploited. To point the finger at Fonua is hash to say the least.
I like Fonua, he runs the ball in with real purpose.
Personally I think Pryce has been a little ineffective and this has a knock on effect to our attack (Sneyd doing all the creating) and our defence, as has been pointed out on this thread.
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| I like Fonua too, he offers a lot going forward and changed the Rovers game late on
I was at the catalans home game and appreciate what you're saying about the right side in general, Pryce is another conversation all together
I just think Fonua would be more valuable as a winger, with his go forward, similar to Talanoa. Centre is a difficult position to defend in, why I think Yeaman has been so valuable this season and I personally don't think Fonua has been defensively smart enough this year with his goal line defence. I thought Logan was making better choices up until a bad game against Wakey and I think he could make a positive impact on the right.
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| On the plus side how tight is the left hand side? virtually nothing gets through there
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| Atm fonua offers more than Logan. IMO think Pryce is the weak link and time to give tuimvare a run at stand off
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| Quote ="DessyH"Yes I have seen the catalans try's. Fonua does make a poor read for Andersons first. This isn't a Fonua bashing and I agree that the right side needs to work a little better together.
But the point here is that Logan got dropped for less and I think he deserves an opportunity again'"
No he doesn't. Pryce comes out n ball watches and does nothing by which time it's too late for Fonua to cover for him. Fonua blasted him as well for it on the way to stand under the posts. Pryce who ain't short on mouth just pretty much accepted it
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| Quote ="hull2524"Atm fonua offers more than Logan. IMO think Pryce is the weak link and time to give tuimvare a run at stand off'"
This was said when he first signed, he'had a few good games but is inconsistent.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I like Fonua, he runs the ball in with real purpose.'"
This is exactly why his defensive failings (at Centre) get overlooked by some. Same for Talanoa.
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"He is really a winger playing centre, so learning different defensive roles. I reckon as a Niger his defensive style is likely to be show them the outside and then put them in row z. At centre he is getting moved around.'"
I'm guessing that isn't what you meant to type????
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| SL teams seem to pass/attack from right to left, it's players natural way of passing, making most teams right side defence more exposed, making more tackles & having most of the plays finishing that way.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm guessing that isn't what you meant to type????'"
It's clear the word is meant ro be winger
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| Logan has the potential to be much the better attacking threat, but defensively didn't look great though acknowledge that the issues down that side weren't all down to him.
MF is overweight/unfit and not a patch on his NRL form. Very dissapointing tbh.
Michaels Is still the best all round centre we have and I hope he's injured because it's a travesty that he's being left out the side at the moment.
I wouldn't be unhappy at Logan getting anither go at the expense of Fonua
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| It's a whole new edge who haven't played together but Pryce doesnt look at all fit. He was pedestrian against Wakey and on Friday. If Carlos is fit he has to play 6 for me.
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"He is really a winger playing centre, so learning different defensive roles. I reckon as a Niger his defensive style is likely to be show them the outside and then put them in row z. At centre he is getting moved around.'"
does any one think that Thompson at r/centre would work? we signed him as a centre iirc. Against leeds he caught their winger, so he's got enough pace. very good defence, and great footwork. Be gentle with me please!
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| I'm a big Thompson fan, but he isn't as good in defence as you put it. Often gets caught out and flings his arms about too much trying to grab the shirts instead of wrapping them up. As for playing centre, I'd pass on the idea. He's effective coming off the bench.
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| Quote ="*1865*"This is exactly why his defensive failings (at Centre) get overlooked by some. Same for Talanoa.'"
On the flip side, you could say its only the fact that Yeaman was considered strong in defence that overlooked his lack of speed or ability to put his winger away.
There are very few players who excel in all areas of the game.
I think this criticism of Fonua is a bit hash.
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| So if Yeaman can't get his winger away on the left then why do we always play our most defensively sound centre on the left with more that half the big plays going down the right?
Would Fonua find it easier to defend on the left, would Yeaman improve the right side defence?
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| Quote ="DessyH"So if Yeaman can't get his winger away on the left then why do we always play our most defensively sound centre on the left with more that half the big plays going down the right?
Would Fonua find it easier to defend on the left, would Yeaman improve the right side defence?'"
This is why coaches get paid, to work these things out.
Ironically, Yeaman probably has more try assists this season so far than he has had for a while. Perhaps a consequence of not being guaranteed a place?
Personally I dont thing Fonua is the issue defencively
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| Yeaman has plenty of try assists ask Tom Briscoe, Naughton and Talanoa. Thompson misses too many one on ones for me.
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| Quote ="Ellam"Yeaman has plenty of try assists ask Tom Briscoe, Naughton and Talanoa. Thompson misses too many one on ones for me.'"
HAHA
Briscoe and before him Raynor could easily have topped the try scoring charts had their chosen to pass at the right times
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| Yeaman this last few matches has been really good and he's actually passing the ball. But for years he never passed his main downfall IMO often taking the tackle instead of freeing his winger
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| Oh why oh why do some have to find something to moan about? here we are third in table just done the double on a side who many are saying will be in Grand Final and all we do is pick out the negatives. What some miss is the fact that Pat Richards is a big unit ,a class winger and takes some stopping and with the great passes he got 10 yards from the line it was odds on he would score. The dig at Fonua being overweight and unfit is an insult to the player and the coaches,i agree with what was said on radio tonight about how some fans slag players off when we lose ,we won and still doing it..give your heads a bang
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| He is overweight and that's not an insult that's a reality compared to his normal NRL size. He's also shown little sign of being properly match fit, his knee has limited him for months.
As for fans 'moaning', no, people are discussing the in and outs, pros and cons of the team...you know, what forums were designed for, get over it!
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| Id play michaels on the right wing, seems to make more right decisions then wrong ones, often compensates for the centres poor read
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"He is overweight and that's not an insult that's a reality compared to his normal NRL size. He's also shown little sign of being properly match fit, his knee has limited him for months.
As for fans 'moaning', no, people are discussing the in and outs, pros and cons of the team...you know, what forums were designed for, get over it!'"
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"HAHA
Briscoe and before him Raynor could easily have topped the try scoring charts had their Centre chosen to pass at the right times
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Between them they scored over 200 outside him. He's never been great at getting his winger away but at the same time not as remotely bad as made out either
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