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| Quote ="anlabyfc"This is the first time I have ever posted, but HullFC-1865 really needs to take his or her head out of the sand, unless it was a wind up. The quality of officials in rugby league is appalling and I believe is one of the main reasons that gates in the sport is declining. I have been a season pass holder for many years but I am not now, not because I'm not happy with the coach or the team, but because I'm sick of watching officials having too big an influence on the scores. I've just watched the Staines v Widnes match and felt tHat a very poor dissuasion by the ref when Widnes was winning changed the result. By the way I was at the match on Friday night against Leeds, and I left feeling how bad do you need to be to be the worst ref in rugby league, but Child's manages it every time.'"
I've amended the name of the poster you referred to as the real 1865 is a regular and valuable poster on this forum. The guy you're referring to is an obvious troll and in all probability is a Dobbins fan. He's best ignored I think.
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| Definitely true, there's a hidden agenda in the game, the so-called big teams are untouchable.
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| My apologies to the real 1865, but I did wonder if it was a wind up, as i put in the first sentence of my post. But I do believe if the rugby league don't do anything about the problem with the officials they will kill the game.
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| Childs is and always will be a shocking referee,and Hicks did the same today ,Widnes were yards offside all the game ,even crabtree said if Hicks is only 8 metres away then the players are the same .it was a joke the RFL need to act but they wont
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I've amended the name of the poster you referred to as the real 1865 is a regular and valuable poster on this forum. The guy you're referring to is an obvious troll and in all probability is a Dobbins fan. He's best ignored I think.'"
a troll because I disagree and have eyes in my head?, this place has become pathetic with people like you.
I've been an FC fan for 40 years and I have never set foot in Craven Park (Old or New), but you crack on, there must be a meeting between the fan club scheduled soon. Someone commented a long time ago about a "cuddle crew", seems it's alive and kicking.
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| Quote ="HullFC_1865"a troll because I disagree and have eyes in my head?, this place has become pathetic with people like you.
I've been an FC fan for 40 years and I have never set foot in Craven Park (Old or New), but you crack on, there must be a meeting between the fan club scheduled soon. Someone commented a long time ago about a "cuddle crew", seems it's alive and kicking.'"
Not much of a fan if you don't support your team at the only away game it is easy to get to
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| Quote ="HullFC_1865"a troll because I disagree and have eyes in my head?, this place has become pathetic with people like you.
I've been an FC fan for 40 years and I have never set foot in Craven Park (Old or New), but you crack on, there must be a meeting between the fan club scheduled soon. Someone commented a long time ago about a "cuddle crew", seems it's alive and kicking.'"
You've been around on here a long time it seems. What's stimulated your sudden frenzy of posting nastiness after all these years of silence?
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| Quote ="sandy"Not much of a fan if you don't support your team at the only away game it is easy to get to'"
depends where you live I guess, and fans don't have to go to games, only idiots measure support by the number of games people can make it to.
And Mrs B, where have I been nasty, just fed up of apologies and excuses.
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| Quote ="HullFC_1865"depends where you live I guess, and fans don't have to go to games, only idiots measure support by the number of games people can make it to.
And Mrs B, where have I been nasty, just fed up of apologies and excuses.'"
Calling this board pathetic, slating Radford, disparaging comments about posters and your unfettered disrespect for any of their opinions. Now we're onto "idiots". Your capacity for balance is almost nil, sir. Now you're despising the "fan club". On a board called [urlfans[/u. What next, calling passholders "disgusting"?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Calling this board pathetic, slating Radford, disparaging comments about posters and your unfettered disrespect for any of their opinions. Now we're onto "idiots". Your capacity for balance is almost nil, sir. Now you're despising the "fan club". On a board called [urlfans[/u. What next, calling passholders "disgusting"?
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the board isn't pathetic, the fact some people seem to think any opposing opinion is, I am not despising anyone, but maybe you should spend less time criticising KR and have look inwards, or maybe you want to continue to pretend to be an accountant?
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| Quote ="HullFC_1865"depends where you live I guess, and fans don't have to go to games, only idiots measure support by the number of games people can make it to.
And Mrs B, where have I been nasty, just fed up of apologies and excuses.'"
Well there are many on here who travel many miles to support their team. They're the real fans, not the ones who sit on their backsides and moan about the club without actually turning up and supporting the boys. I don't count those who cannot travel (but would if they could) and their input is always welcome on here.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Well there are many on here who travel many miles to support their team. They're the real fans, not the ones who sit on their backsides and moan about the club without actually turning up and supporting the boys. I don't count those who cannot travel (but would if they could) and their input is always welcome on here.'"
and that is your opinion, it's a good job we're all different, keeps it interesting
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Hardakers knock on was unbelievable especially as the touch judge was close enough to touch the ball ,
Honest question here ... Wtf do touch judges do apart from ball or feet in touch ?'"
run up and down the touch line advertising specsavers,that`s their prime job.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Well there are many on here who travel many miles to support their team. They're the real fans, not the ones who sit on their backsides and moan about the club without actually turning up and supporting the boys. I don't count those who cannot travel (but would if they could) and their input is always welcome on here.'" here,here.
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| Child was (and pretty much always is) awful. He did get some wrong for both sides, though, but I'd agree that we seemed to come out of it the worse of the 2 sides. Wasn't what cost us the game IMO, but didn't help. In fact, the worst decision of the match was probably the Houghton knock-on in the Leeds attack that would probably have seen the game effectively over sooner.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Hardakers knock on was unbelievable especially as the touch judge was close enough to touch the ball ,
Honest question here ... Wtf do touch judges do apart from ball or feet in touch ?'"
When they do anything it's usually wrong. In the KR game the touch judge stood next to Welham while he knocked the ball out of Inu's hands in a 2 man tackle and failed to have the penalty awarded to Catalans. The other bug bear of mine is the 'unofficial' use of the video referee during games - there'll be certain decisions (scrum put-in etc.) suddenly mysteriously overturned after the incident is shown again on the TV. Other times nothing happens when an incorrect decision is seen to be made. Gives the impression that things are being made up as they go along.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Child was (and pretty much always is) awful. He did get some wrong for both sides, though, but I'd agree that we seemed to come out of it the worse of the 2 sides. Wasn't what cost us the game IMO, but didn't help. In fact, the worst decision of the match was probably the Houghton knock-on in the Leeds attack that would probably have seen the game effectively over sooner.'"
The worst decision of the match was undoubtedly the ball steal penalty against Yeaman when he was the only player ever in or near the tackle. Even if he did knock the ball out during the tackle contact how the hell can that be a penalty ? Ever ? It was a ridiculous decision by a limited referee.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"The worst decision of the match was undoubtedly the ball steal penalty against Yeaman when he was the only player ever in or near the tackle. Even if he did knock the ball out during the tackle contact how the hell can that be a penalty ? Ever ? It was a ridiculous decision by a limited referee.'"
I agree, was never a penalty in a million years. Scrum to Leeds IMO. At least he saw something, though. Houghton clearly played the ball and Child apparently didn't even notice.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"The worst decision of the match was undoubtedly the ball steal penalty against Yeaman when he was the only player ever in or near the tackle. Even if he did knock the ball out during the tackle contact how the hell can that be a penalty ? Ever ? It was a ridiculous decision by a limited referee.'" I have to agree, seemed crazy at the time.
I've not seen a replay, so it's probably not relevant, but a 2 man tackle is always a 2 man tackle, even if one of the players releases, turning it into a 1 man tackle.
In that situation, a ball steal is a penalty.
A doubt Childs would have been able to work that one out anyway.
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| Quote ="ccs"I have to agree, seemed crazy at the time.
I've not seen a replay, so it's probably not relevant, but a 2 man tackle is always a 2 man tackle, even if one of the players releases, turning it into a 1 man tackle.
In that situation, a ball steal is a penalty.
A doubt Childs would have been able to work that one out anyway.'"
It was never a 2 man tackle though - not even remotely close - that's the point.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"It was never a 2 man tackle though - not even remotely close - that's the point.'"
I know, all I'm saying is if that if a 2nd player had been involved in the tackle much earlier in the play, then a penalty would have been right. As I said, I haven't seen a replay.
It's one of those rules which is hardly ever applied, and I'd imagine not many even know it exists.
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| Quote ="ccs"I know, all I'm saying is if that if a 2nd player had been involved in the tackle much earlier in the play, then a penalty would have been right. As I said, I haven't seen a replay.
It's one of those rules which is hardly ever applied, and I'd imagine not many even know it exists.'"
If you watch it back I'm sure child says it was given for the ball being dislodged after the tackle was complete. Pretty sure that was him trying to justify getting it wrong in the first place and having nowhere to go. The correct decision was play on back to 1 as Yeaman was 1 on 1 and Leeds got possession back.
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| Quote ="barham red"If you watch it back I'm sure child says it was given for the ball being dislodged after the tackle was complete. Pretty sure that was him trying to justify getting it wrong in the first place and having nowhere to go. The correct decision was play on back to 1 as Yeaman was 1 on 1 and Leeds got possession back.'"
I think you're right on all of that. The fact that Yeaman and the Leeds player were still sliding along the turf when the ball came out obviously negates Child's pathetic attempt to justify giving Leeds 2 points. Almost glad we never had any chance of getting within 2 by the end otherwise there wold have been hell to pay.
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| Refs sometimes seem to swing 50/50s to keep a game close, then will let one team run away with it in the final 20, especially when it's on TV. When it isn't on TV they often clearly go for whoever's most likely to win.
Not sure I agree that if you're a top 4 side you automatically get everything in your favour, these teams have captains very good at manipulating the ref.
Still, what it comes down to for me is is it incompetence or just straight corruption? Either way we pay good money to watch this sport and it's putting many people, myself included, off.
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| Quote ="barham red"If you watch it back I'm sure child says it was given for the ball being dislodged after the tackle was complete. Pretty sure that was him trying to justify getting it wrong in the first place and having nowhere to go. =#0000FFThe correct decision was play on back to 1 as Yeaman was 1 on 1 and Leeds got possession back.'"
Forgot they got it back cleanly. You're right, play on, not a scrum.
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