And who clould blame them?

More of less was told the same, trouble in camp me thinks, could be a messy few weeks ahead

Its a worrying injury according to agar ankle and acchiles injury out for bout 4 to 6 weeks I reckon .

that's my logic. I'd also like to imagine that Longy challenged Agar to allowing us to play decent rugby because Leeds were down to 14 players and Agar replied with 'no lets keep it tight and wear them down'

Player power again .

Long looks to me like a player not enjoying his rugby. Remember the last time this was the case over in Australia 2006 !

Sadly thats the only thing left when a board of directors fail to act.

Well we are fecked then, because 95% of the players look like they are not enjoying their rugby

I've not enjoyed my rugby for 3 feckin seasons. There's a problem somewhere.

I agree, half d kick and half d attempt to chase back at the end of the first half. Generally poor, we looked a better attacking team in the 2nd half for mine.

Please elaborate?

But carefully.

I think you could be on to something there Dave

Put him and agar in the same taxi and get rid of both.

Think i've been saying it for 3 seasons too!! It all started with playing Radders at 13.

Like I said about last Sunday, he simply isn't putting himself in the right positions to direct the team when it comes to tackle 3,4 and 5.

All I heared is there is unrest, players not happy with Agar, his team selection, and gameplan, got to say I did not understand their issue with the gameplan I thought we never had one

long was poor tonite...looked a shadow of his former self...when obst came on he made a difference imo...nowt amazing but better!!!!

I like the look of Obst and I think he can do a job for us once he settles.

Agar will coach that out of Obst don't worry

Sure did, but one full week here will knock that out of him.

Yep reckon he could be the difference in us finishing 11th or 12th.

Considering we have such a stubborn board, I can only think of a player revolt as being a positive thing!

Is that before or after he gets played at prop by Agar

Another masterstroke from HullFC...Long is a legend of the game and has been one of the best players of the modern era.

but Saints knew exactly what they were doing when they offered him a one year deal, he's injury prone and a spent-force.

no doubt we'll be lining up young Keith Senior as next seasons 'marquee' signing