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| a club or company can make peaple redundant any time it doesnt have to have debt or trading problems it maybe caused by a job simply been not there anymore ,ie due to new tech equipment ,
im gutted for lee great fc hero of mine .shame we couldnt of found him a role if true
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| We are making room for Chris Chester
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| A lot of posters on here slated the appointment, good luck Lee.
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| Quote ="FCTID"A lot of posters on here slated the appointment, good luck Lee.'"
Indeed they did, and were right.
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| A restructure doesn't mean there are financial 'difficulties'....efficencies are always looked at and maybe the structure needed re-jigging - value for money etc......that in general is good business sense.
Obviously it's tough on those who's positions are under review and ultimately go, fingers crossed all can find alternative employment or continued employment within the current organisation.
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| Dennis Moore is obviously taking over the overseeing of youth development. If he is good enough for aussie schools he's good enough for us.
The other redundancies will be to do with lowering over-heads to cope with the extra costs of borrowing £2 million for the training facilities.
Do we need to beg and sell our souls to the Red Tabs? NO
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| Quote ="Willa"Dennis Moore is obviously taking over the overseeing of youth development. If he is good enough for aussie schools he's good enough for us.
The other redundancies will be to do with lowering over-heads to cope with the extra costs of borrowing £2 million for the training facilities.
Do we need to beg and sell our souls to the Red Tabs? NO'"
There may also be some division of labour with City, Pearson was always keen to remove duplication between the two organisations where possible. Let the idiots like Bertie say what they like, we don't have the embarassment of our CEO hand wringing in The Sun for all to see.
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"Me too.......FC cant be making staff redundant, only clubs in financial difficulty do that!
but it will be funny to see the hullers spin on this as they ATTEMPT to worm their way out this one
cue Mrs Ba.......rista'"
Clubs with a sustainable business model get there because they have the ability to make tough business decisions and prune costs as they go along. Never understood the decision to appoint him anyway, and Moore has far more impressive experience in this area. Sorry for Lee, but I can't recall many on here saying his training methods and expertise were irreplaceable.
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| He was a great player for Hull but the appointment was a strange one and perhaps taken for the wrong reasons.
Losing your job is very tough though and I hope he gets sorted soon.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"He was a great player for Hull but the appointment was a strange one and perhaps taken for the wrong reasons.
Losing your job is very tough though and I hope he gets sorted soon.'"
Pretty much sums it up for me.
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| Quote ="Bertie"Anytime is bad to be made redundant but with Christmas nearly upon us it s even worse, especially for a player and coach who has given his club many years loyal service.
I hope the Hull Daily Mail repeat the usual procedure and give the CEO a chance to explain these decisions in a question and answer format, to reasure the mass ranks of black and white faithful.'"
Why?
He can spend his severence pay on Christmas and also has plenty of time to spend with the family before looking for employment in January.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Why?
He can spend his severence pay on Christmas and also has plenty of time to spend with the family before looking for employment in January.'"
As he's been with us less than a year I hope we have paid him no such thing.
(de-personalising it, and him just being "an employee" and not an ex-player)
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| Quote ="Standee"As he's been with us less than a year I hope we have paid him no such thing.
(de-personalising it, and him just being "an employee" and not an ex-player)'"
Maybe severence was the wrong word, I believe we have paid him most of the money he was due next season anyway. This was a professional decision NOT a financial one unlike the article was trying to make out.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Maybe severence was the wrong word, I believe we have paid him most of the money he was due next season anyway. This was a professional decision NOT a financial one unlike the article was trying to make out.'"
We shouldn't be making payments we don't have to, ex player or not.
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| I am absolutely gutted that Lee Crooks has left FC, I though he was doing a brilliant job!
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| So Hull have reportedly gotten rid of Lee Crooks and are not going to recruit anyone else in his position.
Tightening their belts?
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"So Hull have reportedly gotten rid of Lee Crooks and are not going to recruit anyone else in his position.
Tightening their belts?'"
No, making use of Moore.
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| Lee Crooks Hull FC legend..!!
thank you Lee for your help and hope you find a post that suits you very quickly..
Lets not knock the guy in any way as we would not anyone else who lost their job ..especially as its Lee!
The word is simply that moore has taken over the whole package and as he is regarded worldwide as the Messiah with junior players it makes perfect sense to me and expected as much when he joined.
His imput at the club has already been exemplary and a breath of fresh air by all accounts and nothing to do with drawing belts in at all, simply makes good business sense to remove a position we no longer need!!
again good luck Lee as I know you read this forum too
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| Should never have employed him imo.
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| Quote ="willowred"You are skint, making staff redundant, have crippling debts and are on the verge of goinmg into administration'"
the irony.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Should never have employed him imo.'"
indeed, was a strange decision when we made it, and this indicates that someone has seen sense.
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| Quote ="Standee"We shouldn't be making payments we don't have to, ex player or not.'"
Youre right, we dont have to. But as i'm sure youre aware there are also benefits of paying people off in these kind of situations. If we back fill the role meaning its still there it wouldnt be redundancy anyway it would be some kind of compromise agreement, i would reckon we have strongly caveated it which may be the reason we've paid him a fee.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Youre right, we dont have to. But as i'm sure youre aware there are also benefits of paying people off in these kind of situations. If we back fill the role meaning its still there it wouldnt be redundancy anyway it would be some kind of compromise agreement, i would reckon we have strongly caveated it which may be the reason we've paid him a fee.'"
possibly
I don't see why we would need to backfill this season, Moore can do it.
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| Quote ="Standee"possibly
I don't see why we would need to backfill this season, Moore can do it.'"
Indeed. Depends what the thinking is around it. We have a fairly large team of coaches anyway, i'd imagine the responsibilty can just be spread around.
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| Hope this shows we are using Moore's obvious experience in the area of youth development. Don't need 2 blokes doing that whether it's Lee Crooks or anyone else. As for any office redundancies why should Hull FC be immune to the current economic climate ? Hopefully we are acting to preserve our profitable position.
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