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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Sorry I stopped reading at disgraceful and disrespectful hahahaha Jesus wept are you 6?'"
I stopped reading when I saw who the post was made by. Knocker's back and knocking as usual.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I stopped reading when I saw who the post was made by. Knocker's back and knocking as usual.'"
Er, I merely pointed out that we were having a reasonable discussion on who might fit best where and RocknRolla accused me of nit picking but then did exactly that and went all in saying Shaul was garbage.
I knocked no-one, it's inflammatory comments from people not wanting to have a decent discussion that make this forum such a crap place to chat about rugby and the clubs goings on.
If you don't want to enter into discussing rugby like an adult and merely to slag posters off/make snide comment, why don't you just toodle off elsewhere?
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I stopped reading when I saw who the post was made by. Knocker's back and knocking as usual.'"
Will put him on ignore then , if he's the board twerp.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Will put him on ignore then , if he's the board twerp.'"
Well he's just confirmed who he is, if we didn't know already.
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| Quote ="ccs"Well he's just confirmed who he is, if we didn't know already.'"
ooo, proper sherlock holmes, or is that Rosemary and Thyme
Can't we just talk about rugby ffs.
Are all players aside from Shaul injury free thus far, how do people see us playing with regards to Reynolds inclusion, getting the ball moving quicker and with more purpose as well as having more discipline is what I'd like to see. Not just addressing indiscipline at the PTB which costs us penalties but discipline in how we stick to the coaches plan, too often we've seen a bunch of headless chickens running around with no shape or organisation
I remember a home game (against Wigan I think) we were a few points down at HT after making inroads into the opposition lead late in the half, we came back out and went all mental and started forcing things straight from the first set, we lost possession and they scored, back into meltdown mode and they won easily in the end.
it's difficult for players under duress but hopefully a coach that can man manage and address how players adapt and maintain what they do when the chips are down (and also when we are winning) so that the team plays as a team, that they rally each other to continue doing what they know they can do, will see us improve a small amount that can turn close losses into wins.
On the individual side, can't wait to see what Reynolds will bring, his dynamism is evident and hopefully there's someone on his shoulder when he makes a break.
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"ooo, proper sherlock holmes, or is that Rosemary and Thyme
Can't we just talk about rugby ffs.
Are all players aside from Shaul injury free thus far, how do people see us playing with regards to Reynolds inclusion, getting the ball moving quicker and with more purpose as well as having more discipline is what I'd like to see. Not just addressing indiscipline at the PTB which costs us penalties but discipline in how we stick to the coaches plan, too often we've seen a bunch of headless chickens running around with no shape or organisation
I remember a home game (against Wigan I think) we were a few points down at HT after making inroads into the opposition lead late in the half, we came back out and went all mental and started forcing things straight from the first set, we lost possession and they scored, back into meltdown mode and they won easily in the end.
it's difficult for players under duress but hopefully a coach that can man manage and address how players adapt and maintain what they do when the chips are down (and also when we are winning) so that the team plays as a team, that they rally each other to continue doing what they know they can do, will see us improve a small amount that can turn close losses into wins.
On the individual side, can't wait to see what Reynolds will bring, his dynamism is evident and hopefully there's someone on his shoulder when he makes a break.'"
After listening to the interviews by BH and what I've read on the things he has said it certainly appears he is addressing discipline in all areas even within the training, he seems also to be very thorough in his planning by all accounts. He already spoke about the importance of having systems in place and ingrained in the players so even when tired and concentration is low the structure remains in place so hopefully the total drop off and lack of organisation will be a thing of the past. He's also been quite vocal about it being a team first mentality too.
I'm fairly optimistic and looking forward to seeing how we go and feel we will certainly see improvements in our style of play and performance. I'm hopeful we might now see players in support and a fluid attacking line that's mobile rather than static when receiving the ball.
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"Er, I merely pointed out that we were having a reasonable discussion on who might fit best where and RocknRolla accused me of nit picking but then did exactly that and went all in saying Shaul was garbage.
I knocked no-one, it's inflammatory comments from people not wanting to have a decent discussion that make this forum such a crap place to chat about rugby and the clubs goings on.
If you don't want to enter into discussing rugby like an adult and merely to slag posters off/make snide comment, why don't you just toodle off elsewhere?'"
I’m sorry but you made yourself very unpopular in your prior guise and your argumentative style of reposts don’t help. You recently said of me, “ you add nothing to the forum and your posts are meaningless”
Calm down, I appreciate you are an FC fan and your cycle holiday around France and Belgium in 2017 has to be lauded with Jack Harrison memorial in mind. Just try not to bite when other posters are niggling you.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"I’m sorry but you made yourself very unpopular in your prior guise and your argumentative style of reposts don’t help. You recently said of me, “ you add nothing to the forum and your posts are meaningless”
Calm down, I appreciate you are an FC fan and your cycle holiday around France and Belgium in 2017 has to be lauded with Jack Harrison memorial in mind. Just try not to bite when other posters are niggling you.'"
And yet again you just couldn't leave it could you!
So having a differing opinion that didn't meet with others approval warranted been constantly attacked including personally including by you hence my response. You made an inflammatory comment in the first instance and you got one back, yours and others asinine comments towards posters when it comes to disagreeing with an alternate viewpoint is what makes this forum so toxic. Yet you can't even see or admit that it is the puerile posts that make it such, and those posts do not add anything to the forum and ARE meaningless!
Stick to commenting on the rugby and everything is fine, why is that so hard for you and others to understand, or is it that you simply want to cause ructions and force people off the forum when you don't agree because you can't have a reasoned discussion?
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"Which was insane as Briscoe was significantly better than Tony in that position though MT was more flexible regards differing positions.'" He really wasn't though was he ? The form Tony showed during our 13 game winning streak was unreal, the only reason Briscoe got moved back to fullback was because of Blacklock retiring. In fact Briscoe was tried on the wing first but was terrible there so Tony got moved there because there was nobody else and it significantly weakened our team.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"He really wasn't though was he ? The form Tony showed during our 13 game winning streak was unreal, the only reason Briscoe got moved back to fullback was because of Blacklock retiring. In fact Briscoe was tried on the wing first but was terrible there so Tony got moved there because there was nobody else and it significantly weakened our team.'"
I have often said those games in that run are some of the best full back performances I have personally seen for FC at the Kcom. Motu's problem was the same for me as that of Richard Whiting and now to a lesser extent Jake Connor; he could play well in too many positions and his utility value far outweighed his need to play in one place. .
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https://open.spotify.com/episode/5M37E7 ... pi0LvQkFEg
Good listen here with Scott Taylor. Starts with some insight on the new approach from Hodgson and his thoughts on Reynolds, then the story of his career, finishes with what next. Very clear that we can't say we're a top 4 team or entitled to talk about trophies given our performances since 2017, let's concentrate on starting well, working hard, and correcting defence which he describes as disgraceful last year. Feet very much on the ground, good to hear.
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Good listen here with Scott Taylor. Starts with some insight on the new approach from Hodgson and his thoughts on Reynolds, then the story of his career, finishes with what next. Very clear that we can't say we're a top 4 team or entitled to talk about trophies given our performances since 2017, let's concentrate on starting well, working hard, and correcting defence which he describes as disgraceful last year. Feet very much on the ground, good to hear.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"He really wasn't though was he ? The form Tony showed during our 13 game winning streak was unreal, the only reason Briscoe got moved back to fullback was because of Blacklock retiring. In fact Briscoe was tried on the wing first but was terrible there so Tony got moved there because there was nobody else and it significantly weakened our team.'"
We'll agree to disagree, Briscoe was an out and out FB, scored many of his tries backing up, was a superb defender/tackler and solid under the high ball. Motu had more flair, better passer, could kick and was more elusive and as I said could cover many positions, but during that run we were dominant across the park playing some lovely rugby, it's easy to focus on a short period of time when we were largely dominant, I remember him having some right stinkers at FB.
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"And yet again you just couldn't leave it could you!
So having a differing opinion that didn't meet with others approval warranted been constantly attacked including personally including by you hence my response. You made an inflammatory comment in the first instance and you got one back, yours and others asinine comments towards posters when it comes to disagreeing with an alternate viewpoint is what makes this forum so toxic. Yet you can't even see or admit that it is the puerile posts that make it such, and those posts do not add anything to the forum and ARE meaningless!
Stick to commenting on the rugby and everything is fine, why is that so hard for you and others to understand, or is it that you simply want to cause ructions and force people off the forum when you don't agree because you can't have a reasoned discussion?'"
I came in peace and leave in peace
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| Interesting press conference with questions to Brett Hodgson and Josh Reynolds. Free to view
[urlhttps://hullfc.mysportsonline.uk/video/Press_Conference_Brett_Hodgson_Josh_Reynolds_Pre_Season_2021/2920[/url
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Interesting press conference with questions to Brett Hodgson and Josh Reynolds. Free to view
[urlhttps://hullfc.mysportsonline.uk/video/Press_Conference_Brett_Hodgson_Josh_Reynolds_Pre_Season_2021/2920[/url'"
Interesting quiff from our new 6.
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Just wondering what people's thoughts are regards players playing through injury and fatigue? We've seen too often players having to be jabbed up to play and this has a direct impact on player welfare but secondary it has an effect on performance of that player and the team overall. It also has a bearing on younger player development.
A more pro active stance regards injuries and fatigue with better squad rotation and introducing a junior/squad player quicker instead of jabbing up a senior player to continue to play should benefit not just the players but the team results wise. Players whom are severely fatigued or have an injury and being asked to play are more likely to not perform as well as the squad player, doing fewer minutes as well, but also the increased likelihood to either worsen the current injury and be out for longer or when fatigued, more likely to get an injury to start with.
It's all too easy to put your 'best' team out week in week out and even when you don't have many games missed by the 1st XVII as we saw in 2016, this does have a huge impact on how players perform in the final 1/4 of the season as well as long term injuries that might impact far more significantly than if they were withdrawn earlier from playing. it also means junior squad players thrown in at the pointy end of the season have less experience to deal with those all so important games and the pressure that comes with them.
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It's not just our club, it's everywhere, even in the amateur ranks players are taking painkillers to get onto the pitch/get through a game and the longer term post career impact on the body is well know (See Rob Parkers video from a few years ago that featured on the One Show https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05dqkvm ) However I truly believe that addressing injuries and fatigue works better overall and longer term regards results, the argument that we would lose more games with squad players in, we have a weaker starting 13 or weaker bench is valid but we can't know how the injured/fatigued senior player is going to perform in any case never mind how they perform over a season with a constant 'niggling' injury or worse.
One of the best examples I saw but seemingly forced onto Radford with him stating we had a 'million pounds worth of players in the stand' was when we played Warrington on an Easter Monday. Warrington went into the game with the 'best' 17 they could muster, most of whom had played on the good Friday, and we had a team full of kids, Warrington were flying high and yet with most the senior squad out, we won.
Also like to see squad players brought into their correct positions instead of moving other senior players around to put a square peg into a round hole.
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Just wondering what people's thoughts are regards players playing through injury and fatigue? We've seen too often players having to be jabbed up to play and this has a direct impact on player welfare but secondary it has an effect on performance of that player and the team overall. It also has a bearing on younger player development.
A more pro active stance regards injuries and fatigue with better squad rotation and introducing a junior/squad player quicker instead of jabbing up a senior player to continue to play should benefit not just the players but the team results wise. Players whom are severely fatigued or have an injury and being asked to play are more likely to not perform as well as the squad player, doing fewer minutes as well, but also the increased likelihood to either worsen the current injury and be out for longer or when fatigued, more likely to get an injury to start with.
It's all too easy to put your 'best' team out week in week out and even when you don't have many games missed by the 1st XVII as we saw in 2016, this does have a huge impact on how players perform in the final 1/4 of the season as well as long term injuries that might impact far more significantly than if they were withdrawn earlier from playing. it also means junior squad players thrown in at the pointy end of the season have less experience to deal with those all so important games and the pressure that comes with them.
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It's not just our club, it's everywhere, even in the amateur ranks players are taking painkillers to get onto the pitch/get through a game and the longer term post career impact on the body is well know (See Rob Parkers video from a few years ago that featured on the One Show https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05dqkvm ) However I truly believe that addressing injuries and fatigue works better overall and longer term regards results, the argument that we would lose more games with squad players in, we have a weaker starting 13 or weaker bench is valid but we can't know how the injured/fatigued senior player is going to perform in any case never mind how they perform over a season with a constant 'niggling' injury or worse.
One of the best examples I saw but seemingly forced onto Radford with him stating we had a 'million pounds worth of players in the stand' was when we played Warrington on an Easter Monday. Warrington went into the game with the 'best' 17 they could muster, most of whom had played on the good Friday, and we had a team full of kids, Warrington were flying high and yet with most the senior squad out, we won.
Also like to see squad players brought into their correct positions instead of moving other senior players around to put a square peg into a round hole.
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Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"Just wondering what people's thoughts are regards players playing through injury and fatigue? We've seen too often players having to be jabbed up to play and this has a direct impact on player welfare but secondary it has an effect on performance of that player and the team overall. It also has a bearing on younger player development.
A more pro active stance regards injuries and fatigue with better squad rotation and introducing a junior/squad player quicker instead of jabbing up a senior player to continue to play should benefit not just the players but the team results wise. Players whom are severely fatigued or have an injury and being asked to play are more likely to not perform as well as the squad player, doing fewer minutes as well, but also the increased likelihood to either worsen the current injury and be out for longer or when fatigued, more likely to get an injury to start with.
It's all too easy to put your 'best' team out week in week out and even when you don't have many games missed by the 1st XVII as we saw in 2016, this does have a huge impact on how players perform in the final 1/4 of the season as well as long term injuries that might impact far more significantly than if they were withdrawn earlier from playing. it also means junior squad players thrown in at the pointy end of the season have less experience to deal with those all so important games and the pressure that comes with them.
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It's not just our club, it's everywhere, even in the amateur ranks players are taking painkillers to get onto the pitch/get through a game and the longer term post career impact on the body is well know (See Rob Parkers video from a few years ago that featured on the One Show https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05dqkvm ) However I truly believe that addressing injuries and fatigue works better overall and longer term regards results, the argument that we would lose more games with squad players in, we have a weaker starting 13 or weaker bench is valid but we can't know how the injured/fatigued senior player is going to perform in any case never mind how they perform over a season with a constant 'niggling' injury or worse.
One of the best examples I saw but seemingly forced onto Radford with him stating we had a 'million pounds worth of players in the stand' was when we played Warrington on an Easter Monday. Warrington went into the game with the 'best' 17 they could muster, most of whom had played on the good Friday, and we had a team full of kids, Warrington were flying high and yet with most the senior squad out, we won.
Also like to see squad players brought into their correct positions instead of moving other senior players around to put a square peg into a round hole.'"
Rugby league is a brutal game and it's just inevitable that players will sometimes have to play through a little niggle or a bit of fatigue. But I agree with you, flogging players until they break just doesn't do anyone any good. You carry a 30 man squad for a reason, and whilst you want to have your best players playing as much as possible, you need to know when to rotate and give those guys a rest, otherwise you get to the business end of the season and those guys are shot pieces and unable to perform anywhere near their potential.
It is a hard balancing act for a coach and I don't like to criticise them too much in hindsight. Also you know what rugby players are like for putting their hand up to play when they really shouldn't and that makes it even harder to make these decisions. But it's a squad game and you need to use it.
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Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"Just wondering what people's thoughts are regards players playing through injury and fatigue? We've seen too often players having to be jabbed up to play and this has a direct impact on player welfare but secondary it has an effect on performance of that player and the team overall. It also has a bearing on younger player development.
A more pro active stance regards injuries and fatigue with better squad rotation and introducing a junior/squad player quicker instead of jabbing up a senior player to continue to play should benefit not just the players but the team results wise. Players whom are severely fatigued or have an injury and being asked to play are more likely to not perform as well as the squad player, doing fewer minutes as well, but also the increased likelihood to either worsen the current injury and be out for longer or when fatigued, more likely to get an injury to start with.
It's all too easy to put your 'best' team out week in week out and even when you don't have many games missed by the 1st XVII as we saw in 2016, this does have a huge impact on how players perform in the final 1/4 of the season as well as long term injuries that might impact far more significantly than if they were withdrawn earlier from playing. it also means junior squad players thrown in at the pointy end of the season have less experience to deal with those all so important games and the pressure that comes with them.
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It's not just our club, it's everywhere, even in the amateur ranks players are taking painkillers to get onto the pitch/get through a game and the longer term post career impact on the body is well know (See Rob Parkers video from a few years ago that featured on the One Show https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05dqkvm ) However I truly believe that addressing injuries and fatigue works better overall and longer term regards results, the argument that we would lose more games with squad players in, we have a weaker starting 13 or weaker bench is valid but we can't know how the injured/fatigued senior player is going to perform in any case never mind how they perform over a season with a constant 'niggling' injury or worse.
One of the best examples I saw but seemingly forced onto Radford with him stating we had a 'million pounds worth of players in the stand' was when we played Warrington on an Easter Monday. Warrington went into the game with the 'best' 17 they could muster, most of whom had played on the good Friday, and we had a team full of kids, Warrington were flying high and yet with most the senior squad out, we won.
Also like to see squad players brought into their correct positions instead of moving other senior players around to put a square peg into a round hole.'"
Rugby league is a brutal game and it's just inevitable that players will sometimes have to play through a little niggle or a bit of fatigue. But I agree with you, flogging players until they break just doesn't do anyone any good. You carry a 30 man squad for a reason, and whilst you want to have your best players playing as much as possible, you need to know when to rotate and give those guys a rest, otherwise you get to the business end of the season and those guys are shot pieces and unable to perform anywhere near their potential.
It is a hard balancing act for a coach and I don't like to criticise them too much in hindsight. Also you know what rugby players are like for putting their hand up to play when they really shouldn't and that makes it even harder to make these decisions. But it's a squad game and you need to use it.
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But there's the continual bashing regards the rugby ripping up the pitch, and surely if there's effort to cover the pitch when there's predicted heavy rainfall as well as the undersoil heating (that can aid drying it out) it comes across as excuses for not doing the basics in terms of maintaining the ground.
They restarted in 19th Sept 2 months after season end with another 3 months of no play from march to late June, plenty more time to do the work they needed to, since September they've played 19 home games to 2nd Feb, with 10 in the last 11 weeks/79 days
We played one game at home 18th October.
The pitch is in a state because of mismanagement.
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"Quote ="UllFC"Good job the season is delayed because the KCOM's pitch is in a right state. They are saying its because there wasn't a proper football off season, but with them lot in charge you don't know if the budget has been cut...'"
But there's the continual bashing regards the rugby ripping up the pitch, and surely if there's effort to cover the pitch when there's predicted heavy rainfall as well as the undersoil heating (that can aid drying it out) it comes across as excuses for not doing the basics in terms of maintaining the ground.
They restarted in 19th Sept 2 months after season end with another 3 months of no play from march to late June, plenty more time to do the work they needed to, since September they've played 19 home games to 2nd Feb, with 10 in the last 11 weeks/79 days
We played one game at home 18th October.
The pitch is in a state because of mismanagement.'"
In regards to the state of the pitch there really is and are no excuses. The KCOM under the control of the Allams via the SMC has for long enough been neglected and questions why under their management it has racked up debt need to be asked.
The majority of the country has suffered poor weather but clubs without the same standard of faculty can still manage to produce a pitch that copes with the weather. This time they can not use the rugby as an excuse.
The spat the Allams had with ground staff and mismanagement through lack of investment are most likely to be the root cause of the issues with the pitch.
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| Quote ="Chris71"In regards to the state of the pitch there really is and are no excuses. The KCOM under the control of the Allams via the SMC has for long enough been neglected and questions why under their management it has racked up debt need to be asked.
The majority of the country has suffered poor weather but clubs without the same standard of faculty can still manage to produce a pitch that copes with the weather. This time they can not use the rugby as an excuse.
The spat the Allams had with ground staff and mismanagement through lack of investment are most likely to be the root cause of the issues with the pitch.'"
Indeed, the Allams are a joke and HCC should grow a pair and start charging them for mis management of a public asset, the Stadium itself is in need of some serious investment, which the Council are responsible for, the SMC are like every other managing agency, lazy and complacent.
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| Anyone else think we may get a new captain? Seems weird to string it out if it's just going to be Houghton again.
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| I would think because of the delay in a captain’s announcement, we are going for a new leader. A change shouldn’t rock the boat so much, Sneyd or Carlos for me,
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