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| dont think anyone really stood out.match could have gone either way.think i would sooner have long next year than a second rate aussie who cant tackle.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"You mean he was actually playing?'"
Jealousy is a funny thing isnt it.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"icon_lol.gif
Jealousy is a funny thing isnt it.'"
He was poor, a shadow of his former self. He's leaving Saints at the right time as not to tarnish his legend there
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"He was poor, a shadow of his former self. He's leaving Saints at the right time as not to tarnish his legend there'"
He ran the game for the first 30, but don't let facts get in the way.
Talking about facts, ho are those accounts coming along, gas mark 4 for a while should have cooked them by now!?
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"He was poor, a shadow of his former self. He's leaving Saints at the right time as not to tarnish his legend there'"
A bit like Cookie then when he left us!!
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"He was poor, a shadow of his former self. He's leaving Saints at the right time as not to tarnish his legend there'"
Oh Dear the green eye has blinked again you obviously have a different view to most of the RL pundits and three of the morning papes, but then again you would have ? Incidentally I thought your big signng of two months ago Matt Diskin had a great game! Whens Crocker arriving?
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| I thought Longy was at best 'patchy' in respect of his attacking play, but as Dave T said, “He bosses his side” and on the main that's what Hull FC have been lacking.
The 'weaknesses' in the St Helens team Imo are very similar to our own: Pryce: He has been awful for the last year (see Richard Horne).
Flannery at loose man is having the same negative effect on Saints that Radford has for Hull, Wellens is off form (big style) when on form he’s like an extra halfback, Cunningham is not the player he was and the likes of Clough and Gardner are not Imo good enough. Coupled with a slower play the ball this has lowered their try scoring opportunities.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Oh Dear the green eye has blinked again you obviously have a different view to most of the RL pundits and three of the morning papes, but then again you would have ? Incidentally I thought your big signng of two months ago Matt Diskin had a great game! Whens Crocker arriving?'"
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"He was poor, a shadow of his former self. He's leaving Saints at the right time as not to tarnish his legend there'"
That statement reminds me of the one you posted on the VT, what was it again, some-thing about Huddersfield v Cats
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| I think the problem Hull may end up having with Long is over-reliance. No matter how big a 'name' he is in the RL world he simply isn't the player he was. He no longer has that burst of speed that was integral to his game 8-10 years ago, and his kicking game was never the strongest, Coupled with the fact that in the last few years Saints have utilised the 'piggy-back' style of rugby and it has led to the ever-increasing opinion that Long was merely there on reputation alone, and that some of the more learned Saints supporters were clamouring for Matty Smith to be given a shot at 7.
As good as your forward pack looks next year, don't be at all surprised if Long fails to be the creative master you're desperate for. On the other hand, don't be surprised if he leads you to all 3 trophies and wins Man Of Steel!
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"I think the problem Hull may end up having with Long is over-reliance. No matter how big a 'name' he is in the RL world he simply isn't the player he was. He no longer has that burst of speed that was integral to his game 8-10 years ago, and his kicking game was never the strongest, Coupled with the fact that in the last few years Saints have utilised the 'piggy-back' style of rugby and it has led to the ever-increasing opinion that Long was merely there on reputation alone, and that some of the more learned Saints supporters were clamouring for Matty Smith to be given a shot at 7.
As good as your forward pack looks next year, don't be at all surprised if Long fails to be the creative master you're desperate for. On the other hand, don't be surprised if he leads you to all 3 trophies and wins Man Of Steel!
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1)He's a genuine 7, which represents unchartered territory for FC in the last several years. Tell me he's not a step on from Thorman, R Horne and Berrigan at SH.
2) He's got shedloads of experience to impart to the likes of Washy, Turner, Tansey and the reserve playmakers
3) He's been an absolutely pivotal player for Saints in a golden era for them. He'll bring some of their gameplanning and motivational insight with him.
4) He's an iconic figure (love him or hate him) and will be a draw of sorts.
I don't expect him to be an everpresent classic playmaker for us, but let's face it, Luke Robinson is SH in a team that finished above you, top drawer SHs are hardly prevalent in SL. He'll do for me.
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| Reading some of the more egagerated claims about Sean Long leads me to believe he should have made the dream team. Damned journo's.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"You mean he was actually playing?'"
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| Quote ="Standee"He ran the game for the first 30, but don't let facts get in the way.
Talking about facts, ho are those accounts coming along, gas mark 4 for a while should have cooked them by now!?'"
Getting a little stale. We will still be buzzing around FC's face next year and most probably finishing above.
Lets face it, when you've had a really good day out and have a smile on your face do you count the pennies?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Was really impressed with Long last night watching the game in person. He bosses his side around fantastically that you dont see on the tv. Exactly what we need for next season.'"
I was at the final last night and i've not been longs biggest fan over the last few year but IMO was best player on pitch last night.
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| Quote ="Bertie"Reading some of the more egagerated claims about Sean Long leads me to believe he should have made the dream team. Damned journo's.'"
Maybe you should just try reading, that way your spelling may improve.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Getting a little stale. We will still be buzzing around FC's face next year and most probably finishing above.
Lets face it, when you've had a really good day out and have a smile on your face do you count the pennies?
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We counted the pennies last August after the Cup final. £250,000 of them.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"We counted the pennies last August after the Cup final. £250,000 of them.'"
Good for you. Good to see it was put to excellent use.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Good for you. Good to see it was put to excellent use.
'" £250,000, bet some clubs could really do with that right now eh?
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| Quote ="fcimp"£250,000, bet some clubs could really do with that right now eh?
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Some clubs don't need prize money, they rely on "Club Skint" to pay their bills.
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| Quote ="St pete"I was at the final last night and i've not been longs biggest fan over the last few year but IMO was best player on pitch last night.'"
Sinfield played very well but Long was defo up there.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Some clubs don't need prize money, they rely on "Club Skint" to pay their bills.
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We cant pay our bills, you cant play rugby. Fair does. Anyway, Long. Needs a haircut and a decent stand off. Oh dear.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"sleepy.gif We cant pay our bills, you cant play rugby. Fair does. Anyway, Long. Needs a haircut and a decent stand off. Oh dear.'"
Who mentioned Hull KR?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Was really impressed with Long last night watching the game in person. He bosses his side around fantastically that you dont see on the tv. Exactly what we need for next season.'"
He was very good last night. It's a pity (for us, I mean!) that some of our players decided that Grand Final night was going to be the night to have their worst possible brainfarts!
Longy will organise your guys. His kicking game is up and down and last night was probably more down than up but if you need someone to organise your players around the park, put the hard yards in and tackle everything that moves no matter where they are on the pitch then Longy's your man. Plus, he brings some great hair cuts and you really do need someone with a great hair cut.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"sleepy.gif We cant pay our bills, you cant play rugby. Fair does. Anyway, Long. Needs a haircut and a decent stand off. Oh dear.'"
Very true. Looks much nicer on the cover of his book.
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