Agreed - we are making too many mistakes, but keeping pace in the league (today - just!) I'm confident that as the season progresses we'll start to find our feet attacking-wise and hopefully will eradicate the stupid mistakes. that's how Radders earns his crust!

Regarding Warrington's mistakes, that's all part and parcel of the game. A fair proportion of of all games' tries could be seen that way. As others have said, we'd have taken this position at the start of the season and we can only get better (can't we?!!)

Disappointed we failed for the 2nd game running to kill off the oppostion after opening a decent lead in the 1st half only to see us be our own worst enemy and let the opposition back in.
On the flip side i'd have taken 3pts from a possible 4 with away games at Wigan & Warrington and all this whilst still not really playing well for 80mins only for periods at a time in games.
Main worry is still the lack of ball retention at times and stupid penalties we are giving away.

Surely the build-up to Kelly's try was building and maintaining pressure in the opposition 20?

I thought we overplayed at times today and were pressurising the Warrington line well in the first half. We then went too conservative in the second half IMO. Main concern right now is the length of Houghton's absence in a critical period.

No one is bickering that Ive seen so not sure where you get that from?

Beginning of season before a ball is passed or kicked yes we would have taken that but we are now running with the big boys and able to compete and beat them.

So to lose commanding leads against a severely understrength Wigan and a misfiring low on confidence Warrington is disappointing this season and shouldn't be happening. Whether it's a mental issue I know not but to be the best we have to be continually consistent which I believe we can be.
Pleased with the Wigan victory but disappointed and frustrated with the result today.

I hope we can but other teams can too.
Dean Hadley should be back next week or the week after to add some defence and he also makes few mistakes.
Still think we are better having Ellis on the bench to add punch when he comes on.Thompson is better starting rather than off the bench.

I'm not sure we can say it's a mental issue, if anything we have a reputation in the last couple of years for comebacks. More to me due to the team having to cover the tackles differential between Washbrook and Houghton; no offence to Washy whatsoever btw but illustrates the value of DH to the squad and we end up running on empty in the last quarter. We have the best defence in the competition also which is very pleasing.

AS SL shows this year anybody can beat anybody, I still say 3 out of 4 points is not to bad, all this wigan are understrength and wires are bottom imo doesn't mean there matches we should win easily, imo still hard matches, yes we do seem to have a problem holding on to fairly big leads but still havnt lost one, am sure Radford will address this, plus today we had 4/5 players who would have been in the squad missing, I still say we arnt doing to bad and we can improve, we wont be far off ,

Personally, I was very disappointed to concede 3 tries in the same corner when one-on-one tackling would have prevented them.

I think the fact that Talanoa is less likely to get drawn in, and is physically stronger, could have made the difference today.

Having said that , I think it is a point gained rather than a point lost.

[and a good day out all in all, very enjoyable in the sunshine

Too conservative? i dont think so.
We didnt have the ball to play.
Pulled the comment below from a Warrington fans post which sums it up.




Silly errors cost us the win today. If we can eliminate these we could climb up the table. Hull dropped a lot of ball second half mind. If they had played half decent they would have been out of sight.

Agree about Ellis on the bench. I'm sure Radford will be well aware of it, but for me the main thing for us at the moment is maintaining intensity and stamina during the game (especially with Houghton out). It's no good blasting off in great style only to run out of energy later on. I also believe Hadley's return could be crucial - he's a great defender.

I agree re Hadley - he is a winner and we need him.

Don't disagree on our handling. Radford said "It was a really bizarre game and I'm pleased with the way we built our first-half lead up but then in the second period we very much went into our shell.

"We relied on one-out rugby and ended up hanging on for dear life. It was a fantastic 39 minutes but we ended up thanking the rugby Gods at the end of it. Errors cost us again like last week at Wigan."

I thought 1st half was ok and built up a lead but similar to last week at Wigan we let the lead slip by mistakes from dropped ball to stupid penalties. Its almost as if we think the games won and take the foot of the gas then when the opposition get some momentum we panic.

Wigan whether understrength or not are no mugs and neither are Warrington despite their start to the season and to have taken 3 out 4pts from those games is a good return. Think this season we are seeing that everyone can beat each other and no games will be that easy.

disappointing second half again, no possession at all hardly and when we did have it we wasted it, 8 points up, go for goal instead of going for another set to have some possession, mahe kicking the ball dead in a good position, last season i reckon he would have taken the defenders over the line with him if he ran at them

credit to warrington though, they did look something like the old warrington team of last season in the second half, wouldnt be surprised to if they beat leeds next week

only gripe about the ref was the ball steal on mini in the second half, clear professional foul imo and should've been a sin binning! stopped a quick ptb and a possible try as their players were nowhere to be seen!

I agree that its very competitive this year, today you had Widnes get their first win away at Leigh who have been doing well for example.

At the start of the season you'd have looked at our next few games Salford, Leeds, Leigh and Cas and expected 3 wins from 4, but im not so sure now as all 4 teams have shown good form and we ourselves have been competitive in every game.

Exactly, all very difficult, and that's how it should be. Standard (Cas apart) may have been questionable in the early stages but the competitiveness of the comp with lots of tight games decided late on is great.

Again with the negativity before the game is over, same as Wigan, same as other games this season and we have lost how many?
You whine about others negativity but can't help yourself when we have a poor patch in a game and xome out with the doom and gloom/we've lost this type comments.
You'd think we were bottom of the league with 1 point the way you post at times.

Don't want excuses that DH is the difference, simply we weren't good enough over the 80 minutes for the win and a Warrington with a few more wins on the board would likely have won.
Physical fatigue breeds mental fatigue but making critical/basic errors seemingly are creeping back into our play which stems back to huddersfield.
Radford really needs to get a grip on this and find a solution because with better sides the likelihood is we won't get away with a 40 minute performance.

it's most definitely a point dropped, the likes of Shaun Wane wouldn't be thinking it was a point gained that's for sure even with a load of kids playing.

if we're this knackered at this point in the season that is a bit worrying though dropping off in the second half two games on the trot.
Hopefully with Hadley back that'll help, resting Taylor is important as others have said.

Take it with a pinch of sale. I bet Mrs. B only does it to wind you up!!

Yet no too long ago you were accusing me of loving Radford and being blinkered

Which am I, apologist or negativist? Please decide, you can't have it both ways.

Well


TBF you could feel the momentum draining away. Did very well to hang on.

At a time when Radford was taking us backward at a rate of knots, a couple of places off relegation but yeah the comparison is totally the same...not!
it's your in game negativity I'm talking about, every single game if we have a bad spell you come out with 'we've lost the game' type comments, that's not something i do/did.
yet only last week you showed your annoyance at fans negativity yet hypocritacally were doing the very same only a few minutes earlier in the same thread saying we'd lost it before the game had even finished!

Pick one, just pick one. Apologist or miserabilist?

Let's have some anagrammatical fun.
Would you prefer to be a EIIINOPSTTT as opposed to them two?

Hopefully seen as a decent point today as the season progresses.
Radders has said a few times in post match interviews that, 'were so much better than that' and that 'there's so much more to come.'
Hope he's right because I think we'll have to be.

It's all part of the plan. Radders knew how tight it would be with any team beating any other. I, for one, am happy with how we're shaping up. I predict we will peak post round 23 (assuming we're in the dog-fight at the time!!).

Or maybe I'm just an eternal optimist!