Suprise suprise.

i think he needs to lose a little weight but only a little. Pace, wont be required he has guile and a brain and also power with his bulk.

why surprise, its true,

C

In place of who then?

Hadley has varied from solid to class every time he's had a shot this season, nothing seems to shake him and he just gets up and keeps going. Ellis influence I reckon.

Best half back we've had in Super League IMO was Paul Cooke, he was no spring chicken.

And seen as he now lives in north duffield near selby no dramas

Pace is essential in defense though. Castleford exposed this weakness last week. Widnes were a very weak side.

The Widnes bananaskin I saw was just a mirage. The Cream were a well oiled machine tonight. Everyone played well. Abdull took his chance very well.

Thought Widnes were a threat for first 10 or 15 mins. Just shows the importance of strong line defence when the game is tight.

We're back on the horse.

"You have got talent but talent will not take you to the top" This lad has enough talent and mental toughness to take him a long way in this game.To give a display like he did after so much flack he showed he has the makings of a great player.What did Carlos do last night? Abdul was the dominant half by a country mile, he created more and threatened the line more. The difference las night was the forwards ,Taylor ,Bowden and green made more metres than the full pack did against Cas and Abdul made the most of it. Radford has to take some credit ,he got his selection right and used his interchanges well, he has some big decisions to make, some great performances from Hadley ,Green and Bowden who looked fresh and aggressive .

Hello Jordan and welcome to the forums.

They're right though. Abdull outplayed Carlos last night. The play to beat 4/5 defenders for his try was top class, just imagine what he could do if he was a couple of stone lighter and as fit as he should be.

Carlos just isn't doing it for me. He seems to labour with the ball for too long, either putting too much pressure on the man receiving his pass, or he takes so long he has to take the line on. It doesn't look like he sets any plays up before he gets the ball, which is fine if you're Rangi Chase and everyone around you is on your wavelength.

Thought Abdull responded exceptionally well and again showed what he can do, its now upto him and the conditioning staff to get himself into peak fitness and become a SL player on and off the pitch.

I agree about CT as he just doesnt do enough in the halves and is too much of an individual at times. He was better for us when playing as a centre earlier in the season.

To be quite honest we have the making of a great pairing in Sneyd and Abdull as long as he can get himself in to shape.

Unfortunately I work in Thorne so usually miss them...it's normally my eldest that sees them lol

Big pre season for Abdull and move Carlos back to centre. Abdull must be a serious consideration for Wembley now might well depend on how he performs next week if selected.

Good solid win last night can't argue with nilling any opposition in SL.

To answer baldy I would have Hadley over Thompson and even washy Imo . Thought our bench looked really strong last night.

Would feel for Washy if he missed out on the final - he was been very good this year, and actually had a big hand in all our tries last week (scored and set the others up) - and he tightens that right edge up, plus it will be the last chance I would imagine to play at Wembley. Sometimes someone who has been there before and wouldnt be overawed is a better option than someone like Hadley who could freeze on the day

fair point, just wouldn't have both washy and Thompson on the bench,

I never mentioned Thompson. I would be tempted with a Wembley bench of Pritchard, Bowden, Hadley and Washbrook. Taylor and Watts can do decent minutes and Ellis can spell at prop too

that could well be our bench, be harsh on green though, good we have options at this stage of the season

Didnt't think we were great,Widnes were poor,think its glaringly obvious that we need a running Half with pace,hopefully Adam and Radders are on with it.

Certainly not the greatest team we have played this season, but they are a really threat ball in hand at times. They certainly know how to move the ball around and at speed. Also true to say they had quite a few injuries, but there was still a good amount of quality in that team. What is most pleasing is that we out muscled them out of the game, defended well, and we broke their line several times, out kicked them (even without out first choice kicker) and took our chances. The game ran out of steam a little, which is understandable, it's been an energy sapping few weeks and there was no need to go 100% in the final quarter.

Personally I think we made a pretty decent team look ordinary. Fair play to the lads for that.

What is the situation with Michaels? How come he has to move on due to quota spots, even though we have no overseas player coming in?

If Michaels does leave which seems nailed on. I'd look to move Tuimavave back to left centre, but I only think we will do that if Fonua goes back to the wing instead of Michaels, but I prefer Fonua as a centre and said that even before he played a game for us. With Griffin coming in I think he's definitely got a centre spot so I think it'll line up like this.

Shaul
Talanoa
Griffin
Fonua
Naughton

But I'd be willing to move Fonua back to the wing to get Tuimavave back to left centre.

Shaul
Talanoa
Tuimavave
Griffin
Fonua

I'd Keep Fonua at centre I really think he's more effective there. Griffin has played a lot of his career on the wing.

As they say truth hurts the kid proved you wrong