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| Quote ="Sheldon"I must have missed that mate, can't remember him been mentioned.
Roosters are after graham though.'"
Yep the Oz press were jumping through hoops about him , I have the cuttings here in a file direct from the rags etc along with all the other momentos of the trip I collected!!
As for graham i can see why he is a go to performer and as our other exports are doing so well they are looking for more from the UK, would do him good hes a top player
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| Quote ="Sheldon"and so is a man who's won the Clive churchill medal, state of origin, test caps and was named in Brisbane broncos finest 20 players of all time.'"
I have never questioned his record just his current form, at present he is very average, also he has been on average very ordinary since he arrived , yes he played in a poor side when he arrived and yes i am one of the few who knew he wasnt a swain type tackling machine however his distribution, awareness and speed from the play the ball is no where near what it was when he won those gongs, thus he has been average at very best with a few decent showings thrown in here and there!!!
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"icon_eek.gif a player wins man of steel, raved about by the aussies last year, courted by the Roosters so on and so forth OVER RATED???
you dont win MOS by being over rated matey'"
Sorry but as i remember it it was a bit of a shock when Roby won as he'd done well but nothing amazing. Since then how good as he been? Answer = garbage!
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"I have never questioned his record just his current form, at present he is very average
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hows roby been playing since the mos victory?
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Sorry but as i remember it it was a bit of a shock when Roby won as he'd done well but nothing amazing. Since then how good as he been? Answer = garbage!'"
shock to who ?? you, funny how everyone who knows the game from the inside thought he was an awesome young player [u and still is[/u!!
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| Quote ="Sheldon"hows roby been playing since the mos victory?'"
ha ha ha in my opinion and those who watch him every week (family member and saints forum) he is now playing some of his best footie or do you watch him every week, or I guess the saints fans dont know anything about RL either huh, just you
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| Quote ="Sheldon"hows roby been playing since the mos victory?'"
hows Berrigan been playingsince he arrived... hey you dont have to even go to another forum just read this one mush!!!
average at very best, now go clean those Berrigan coloured specs ready for another average show in the derby...
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"ha ha ha in my opinion and those who watch him every week (family member and saints forum) he is now playing some of his best footie or do you watch him every week, or I guess the saints fans dont know anything about RL either huh, just you
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I live in Australia how am I supposed to know how hes playing?
I watch hull when their on tv and see all available highlights as well as radio commerty.
That's hard enough when do you think I watch st helens?
Not everyones having a go at you
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"ha ha ha in my opinion and those who watch him every week (family member and saints forum) he is now playing some of his best footie or do you watch him every week, or I guess the saints fans dont know anything about RL either huh, just you
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Rubbish. He's completely anonomous these days (just like Berrigan)
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"hows Berrigan been playingsince he arrived... hey you dont have to even go to another forum just read this one mush!!!
average at very best, now go clean those Berrigan coloured specs ready for another average show in the derby...'"
Wasn't he player of the year in 2008?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Wasn't he player of the year in 2008?'"
High praise indeed lol
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"hows Berrigan been playingsince he arrived... hey you dont have to even go to another forum just read this one mush!!!
=#0000FFaverage at very best, now go clean those Berrigan coloured specs ready for another average show in the derby...'"
I'm not particularly a Berrigan fan, but that is nonsense. Even his biggest critics admit that he's had some excellent games - in fact that's part of the frustration with him.
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| For me, following Swain, the best hooker that I've ever seen in a B&W shirt, was always going to be impossible. However, Berrigan came here with a seemingly higher profile than RS and a reputation for being pure class. He was clearly a marquee signing, being paid a marquee salary and just doesn't show enough marquee quality anywhere near often enough.
Added to that, we are now going to pay him, presumably the same marquee salary, for a fourth season. I have thought for a while now that we could be spending that money with a lot more positive effect on our squad. Also, there are so many good hookers in SL that do offer so much to their respective teams for what must be a lot less money than Berrigan gets from us.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"For me, following Swain, the best hooker that I've ever seen in a B&W shirt, was always going to be impossible. However, Berrigan came here with a seemingly higher profile than RS and a reputation for being pure class. He was clearly a marquee signing, being paid a marquee salary and just doesn't show enough marquee quality anywhere near often enough.
Added to that, we are now going to pay him, presumably the same marquee salary, for a fourth season. I have thought for a while now that we could be spending that money with a lot more positive effect on our squad. Also, there are so many good hookers in SL that do offer so much to their respective teams for what must be a lot less money than Berrigan gets from us.'"
he came with the tag of "freak" and has been far from that !!
I can only surmise injuries or apathy have played their part on Berro but he does which ever set of glasses you are wearing Kosh and co, Berrigan looks a shadow of the man who played SOO
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| Quote ="Sheldon"hows roby been playing since the mos victory?'"
despite the B&W glasses many wear on here I assure you he is a show in for international honours yet again come the end of the season !!
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| Quote ="Kosh"Even his biggest critics admit that he's had some excellent games - in fact that's part of the frustration with him.'"
didnt I say that
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"didnt I say that
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Nope. You said he'd been average [iat best.[/i That rather specifically excludes him from having produced any performances better than average.
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"he came with the tag of "freak" and has been far from that !!
I can only surmise injuries or apathy have played their part on Berro but he does which ever set of glasses you are wearing Kosh and co, Berrigan looks a shadow of the man who played SOO'"
The 'Freak' tage might be because he can play so well in a variety of positions. For Brisbane he played in the halves, centre and the hooker and excellent is all three positions. It just seemed that no matter where he played he excelled.
His form in his first season was really good and he was our POTY. Last season he was not so good but the side were awful and he was also carrying injuries. This season he started really well against Saints and Hudds but was poor against Crusaders and Salford. In the main he is doing a good job this season especially considering he had no trial games due to recovering from injury and also that the ptb's have been badly policed meaning hookers cannot get the quick ptb's they need.
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| I think that we could easily just all agree that he is clearly a decent player (if he wants to be) but we have not seen anywhere near enough of it.
In brief : he doesn't constitute good value for money !!
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I think that we could easily just all agree that he is clearly a decent player (if he wants to be) but we have not seen anywhere near enough of it.
In brief : he doesn't constitute good value for money !!'"
in a nutshell,
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| Quote ="PAUL M"His form in his first season was really good and he was our POTY. Last season he was not so good but the side were awful and he was also carrying injuries. This season he started really well against Saints and Hudds but was poor against Crusaders and Salford. In the main he is doing a good job this season especially considering he had no trial games due to recovering from injury and also that the ptb's have been badly policed meaning hookers cannot get the quick ptb's they need.'"
That just about sums it up.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"The 'Freak' tage might be because he can play so well in a variety of positions. For Brisbane he played in the halves, centre and the hooker and excellent is all three positions. It just seemed that no matter where he played he excelled.
His form in his first season was really good and he was our POTY. Last season he was not so good but the side were awful and he was also carrying injuries. This season he started really well against Saints and Hudds but was poor against Crusaders and Salford. In the main he is doing a good job this season especially considering he had no trial games due to recovering from injury and also that the ptb's have been badly policed meaning hookers cannot get the quick ptb's they need.'"
I just expect a lot more from one of our higher earning Marque players i guess!!
considering his obvious quality I would have expected him to rip it into the lesser experienced guys at say Crusaders and Salford etc but looks decidedly jaded to me
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"I just expect a lot more from one of our higher earning Marque players i guess!!
considering his obvious quality I would have expected him to rip it into the lesser experienced guys at say Crusaders and Salford etc but looks decidedly jaded to me'"
He might be struggling slightly due to not having a full preseason?
Look at Buderus at Leeds he seems to be doing about aswell as Berrigan and he is also a high profile signing. Maybe poeple just expect too much due to what a player is getting paid, maybe we are overpaying him but that is not Berrigan's fault. I am confident that Berrigan will get better and better as the season goes on providing the pack keeps getting on the front foot.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"=#0000FF[uHe might be struggling slightly due to not having a full preseason[/u?
Look at Buderus at Leeds he seems to be doing about aswell as Berrigan and he is also a high profile signing. Maybe poeple just expect too much due to what a player is getting paid, maybe we are overpaying him but that is not Berrigan's fault. I am confident that Berrigan will get better and better as the season goes on providing the pack keeps getting on the front foot.'" Think this has a lot to do with it.
He'll get better as the season goes on IMO.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He might be struggling slightly due to not having a full preseason?
Look at Buderus at Leeds he seems to be doing about aswell as Berrigan and he is also a high profile signing. Maybe poeple just expect too much due to what a player is getting paid, maybe we are overpaying him but that is not Berrigan's fault. I am confident that Berrigan will get better and better as the season goes on providing the pack keeps getting on the front foot.'"
I do hope so
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