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| Quote ="Yippee try yay"Really feel for Andy Last, he's inherited an old, slow team, their best player is done for the season and the board seem oblivious/uninterested with their situation, looking over at Wakefield who seem to be throwing the kitchen sink at staying up must be demoralising.
Their cap management looks to be awful giving out multi year contracts/extensions to aging, past it players. Kenny Edwards got a 3 yr extension at 33/34 players like Vete and Widdop seem past it or not bothered. If they manage to stay up there's a hell of a rebuild needed.'"
I will forever be thankful to Radders for the days I had at Wembley but signing Fonua after his disasterous 2nd Hull spell is criminal.
I can only imagine what would have happened if Hull sacked him after that long run of defeats in 2018 and appointed someone as experienced as Smith.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego" a decent Leigh side would be 12 up at half time with us playing like that '"
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| We got the win, that's all that matter, but thought we were poor, particularly first half, Cas were awful, think they are in big trouble, some of the trys we scored were awful.
Satae was outstanding I've been critical of hom, but when he's on his game, there isn't a better prop in SL, thought Dywer played well too, Scott excellent.
Litten is going to be some player, will make the odd mistake, but plays what's in front of him, strong runner and so much enthusiasm.
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| Nine missed tackles from Miller today 56 in total from Cas.
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| Quote ="Yippee try yay"Really feel for Andy Last, he's inherited an old, slow team, their best player is done for the season and the board seem oblivious/uninterested with their situation, looking over at Wakefield who seem to be throwing the kitchen sink at staying up must be demoralising.
Their cap management looks to be awful giving out multi year contracts/extensions to aging, past it players. Kenny Edwards got a 3 yr extension at 33/34 players like Vete and Widdop seem past it or not bothered. If they manage to stay up there's a hell of a rebuild needed.'"
Can’t argue there, think Last is fighting a lost cause. As much as Radford did for us in being the coach that brought us the Wembley wins my own feelings was it was more the players that were the reason. The performances following the 2017 season werent great and became the stuff of legends for all the wrong reasons. As a coach he never built on that and we went backwards.
Looking at Cas the squad he assembled he’s learned nothing as he seemed to follow the same plan there as the one that failed at Hull some of the signings have been poor ones. Without McShane they look rudderless. They seem to be in worse situation than we were after Radford left.
I like Cas but really think they’re going to struggle to avoid finishing bottom as Wakey seem to have more fight in them.
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| Satae had 14 tackle busts. Not quite sure I've ever seen that many in a game from 1 player before.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Can’t argue there, think Last is fighting a lost cause. As much as Radford did for us in being the coach that brought us the Wembley wins my own feelings was it was more the players that were the reason. The performances following the 2017 season werent great and became the stuff of legends for all the wrong reasons. As a coach he never built on that and we went backwards.
Looking at Cas the squad he assembled he’s learned nothing as he seemed to follow the same plan there as the one that failed at Hull some of the signings have been poor ones. Without McShane they look rudderless. They seem to be in worse situation than we were after Radford left.
I like Cas but really think they’re going to struggle to avoid finishing bottom as Wakey seem to have more fight in them.'"
Radford was able to spend the full cap here to get some decent players in. He wasn't afforded the same luxury at Cas
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| I think the field announcer said Cas had brought four hundred with them, “if I heard it right” well done to them considering the form they are in, and the rubbish weather forecast which just about avoided us, the usual drunken idiots which are a pest surfaced at the away fans entrance at the end of the game.
We defended pretty well in a difficult windy afternoon, Cas showed up well with a strong resolve in the first half which was pretty even.
For me after Carlos had got his dolphin flapper try, and the change of the team allowing Scott to return to the centre were he’s looking a threat, and the introduction of Dwyer electrified us in the second half, making more room for Big Chris to have the best prop forward spell in a half I’ve not seen in years he was unstoppable, spectacular, devastating and swashbuckling ( now that’s a word) Barron and Litten made some good runs, but also a few errors, you get this with young players, it’s nice to include them with the knowledge it’s not desperation but education, superb crowd of over 12000 the pubs were full around the area Halfway for me and a few pints of sweet tasting bitter.
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| Quote ="Yippee try yay"Really feel for Andy Last, he's inherited an old, slow team, their best player is done for the season and the board seem oblivious/uninterested with their situation, looking over at Wakefield who seem to be throwing the kitchen sink at staying up must be demoralising.
Their cap management looks to be awful giving out multi year contracts/extensions to aging, past it players. Kenny Edwards got a 3 yr extension at 33/34 players like Vete and Widdop seem past it or not bothered. If they manage to stay up there's a hell of a rebuild needed.'"
The Radford effect yet again. What a poor old team they are - a bit like how he left us. The more you look at it the more you think we won both CCs because of the team and despite Radford rather than because - People also dissing Andy Last need to look past him as its not his fault.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"The Radford effect yet again. What a poor old team they are - a bit like how he left us. The more you look at it the more you think we won both CCs because of the team and despite Radford rather than because - People also dissing Andy Last need to look past him as its not his fault.'"
The fact he has signed Jordan Johnstone would really worry me as a Cas fan.
Playing Fonua and Faraimo together is madness.
Whilst Radford has left him with a load of rubbish he has to take some of the blame.
I know the defence on Satae was poor, but I'd be more upset with the defence for Littens try.
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| Think we were blessed in 2016/2017 with some stellar recruitment.
Wheels started coming off when we were found to have no Plan B, and we started recruiting players such as Langtree and Dawson-Jones.
Should have won the comp in 2017 with that squad.
Last has had to pick up the pieces from Radfords tenure. Radfords legacy is polar opposite to the one Tony Smith leaves at his clubs. Cas look in a heap of trouble, even if they survive this year.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"The Radford effect yet again. What a poor old team they are - a bit like how he left us. The more you look at it the more you think we won both CCs because of the team and despite Radford rather than because - People also dissing Andy Last need to look past him as its not his fault.'"
But apart from the 2 cups
Other years we've been pretty dreadful with the same sort of players
Andy Last he was a terrible player and was lucky really to be given a coaching career
As for the game scrappy but we're a team in form and getting results even when average which is a plus
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| We did what was needed, and in the end, after a scratchy first half, we won fairly comfortably, although that was as much to do with Cas being poor as it was with ourselves. Certainly, Castleford's self-belief seemed to evaporate fairly smartly after those two quick tries early after the restart, although their score to bring it back to within six was arguably the best of the game!
Overall, I quite enjoyed the afternoon's entertainment. Yes, we will need to play better in the remaining games, and we are capable of playing better as we have shown in recent weeks, but amazingly, after looking so directionless in March/April, we are in the mix for a play-off spot with eight games to go, a pretty amazing turnaround from where we were back then.
We undoubtedly have weaknesses to work on, but then so do the other sides in that mid-table group, there's no-one in the cluster just above us that we need to be that fearful of. There is at least one, possibly two, play-off spots up for grabs. If we can replicate in the next eight games what we have achieved in the last eight then we won't be too far off. Qualifying for the top-six would represent a successful season for this squad as we lack enough true quality to be serious challengers at the very top.
What that would say about the standard of SL 2023 I'm unsure, but I'll take being in there come September!
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| Quote ="BP1"We did what was needed, and in the end, after a scratchy first half, we won fairly comfortably, although that was as much to do with Cas being poor as it was with ourselves. Certainly, Castleford's self-belief seemed to evaporate fairly smartly after those two quick tries early after the restart, although their score to bring it back to within six was arguably the best of the game!
Overall, I quite enjoyed the afternoon's entertainment. Yes, we will need to play better in the remaining games, and we are capable of playing better as we have shown in recent weeks, but amazingly, after looking so directionless in March/April, we are in the mix for a play-off spot with eight games to go, a pretty amazing turnaround from where we were back then.
We undoubtedly have weaknesses to work on, but then so do the other sides in that mid-table group, there's no-one in the cluster just above us that we need to be that fearful of. There is at least one, possibly two, play-off spots up for grabs. If we can replicate in the next eight games what we have achieved in the last eight then we won't be too far off. Qualifying for the top-six would represent a successful season for this squad as we lack enough true quality to be serious challengers at the very top.
What that would say about the standard of SL 2023 I'm unsure, but I'll take being in there come September!'"
Fair assessment. We won without playing great, which is a good sign. The standard of SL this year, is probably the lowest we have seen. Leeds are so inconsistent, Warrington seem to want their coach gone, Salford looked to have peaked already and Rovers, after a dismal run, might just have turned a corner, with the new man Schneider steering them around , they have found a way to win again. As for the relegation battle, Wakefield's recent resurgence has been halted, but I cannot see a win from Castleford in any remaining fixtures, including the Wakefield match, which may well decide who goes down, points difference may prove to be the deciding factor for that battle, as will our's for a play off spot, effectively we are two points further adrift because of it.
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| I'm going to say something quite controversial about Satae....but that run for the Swift try in the 2nd half, although outstanding to watch, it equally annoyed me.
At half time, I had mentioned that he had been on the pitch around 17/18 minutes, and had only taken 2 or 3 drives in that time - which isn't enough for a front rower. He then scored the barge over try, and went on the rampaging run for Swift - but when you look that his stats for the weekend were 125 metres, 50 of those came in one run! Would you rather have a prop do that once every 4 or 5 games, or someone who offers more consistently. He was also at fault IMO, for the Broadbent try - Watts and Westerman ran at Satae.
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"I'm going to say something quite controversial about Satae....but that run for the Swift try in the 2nd half, although outstanding to watch, it equally annoyed me.
At half time, I had mentioned that he had been on the pitch around 17/18 minutes, and had only taken 2 or 3 drives in that time - which isn't enough for a front rower. He then scored the barge over try, and went on the rampaging run for Swift - but when you look that his stats for the weekend were 125 metres, 50 of those came in one run! Would you rather have a prop do that once every 4 or 5 games, or someone who offers more consistently. He was also at fault IMO, for the Broadbent try - Watts and Westerman ran at Satae.'"
Not sure what you're saying is necessarily controversial as its been said many times that for a player of Sataes size and ability he doesn't carry the ball often enough and is often well below the number of carries of other forwards in SL per game. Think that's why many of here have said whilst its disappointing to lose him he isn't irreplaceable.
As for the Broadbent try it wasn't just Satae at fault as it was also another awful missed tackle by Lane.
In regards to Satae for me he is far better the more carries he takes but as you say its just not often enough, whether that's just down to how we play or not I'm not sure.
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| first cas try was poor at attempt by carlos.
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"first cas try was poor at attempt by carlos.'"
To be fair, the winger stood up him up brilliantly - not everything is down to poor defence
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| Quote ="Chris71"In regards to Satae for me he is far better the more carries he takes but as you say its just not often enough, whether that's just down to how we play or not I'm not sure.'" The less he is able to be targeted in defence is the big thing too, he is always high for marker tackles because teams turn the ball back on the inside to try and fatigue him. I think his performances have improved a lot since he started coming off the bench too.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Not sure what you're saying is necessarily controversial as its been said many times that for a player of Sataes size and ability he doesn't carry the ball often enough and is often well below the number of carries of other forwards in SL per game. Think that's why many of here have said whilst its disappointing to lose him he isn't irreplaceable.
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In regards to Satae for me he is far better the more carries he takes but as you say its just not often enough, whether that's just down to how we play or not I'm not sure.'"
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"That was a shocker.'"
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| Just caught up with the highlights after a short break away , Jeez What a Satae / Swift try !!.
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| Quote ="bonaire"i would play Lane in the reserves on Saturday'"
If we didn't already have so many players leaving, Lane is probably one we should also be looking at moving on. He's probably one of the only players that looked better under Hodgson than they do under Smith.
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| Quote ="B0NES"Just caught up with the highlights after a short break away , Jeez What a Satae / Swift try !!.'"
Satae gets the plaudits and rightly so for the brilliant break but Swift's finish was magnificent. Running flat out he had support players to the left and right so many options but he choose the right one by backing himself to the line. He's been a great signing and we are going to miss him.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Satae gets the plaudits and rightly so for the brilliant break but Swift's finish was magnificent. Running flat out he had support players to the left and right so many options but he choose the right one by backing himself to the line. He's been a great signing and we are going to miss him.'"
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