Best post on here for me and something I have said in the past - particularly when we play more of our second tier players.

As for tonight's game I pretty much expected it - maybe not to be kept scoreless though. This year's Super League has shaped up with two teams playing by far the best RL in the comp. There is then tier 2 which we're in and maybe a third level although anyone can beat anyone outside the top 2 as has been proven.

As regards our position going forward we need more quality in the backs. Looking ahead 3-5 years we need these promising youngsters to seriously fulfil their potential as it is those players that will determine any future success with the rules on player roster as they are. Wigan's depth comes from the quality of their youngsters and if we are to challenge in the coming years ours need to be as good.

Spot on, couldnt agree more. You can basically narrow our attacking options down to; down the left hand side - give the ball to Manu, and down the right hand side - give the ball to Lauaki. Theres no second phase, no dummy runners, no set moves, basically no alternative to the above options.

Seems to look that way at times. Intensity is something that the coach can control - even if as in our case we have some players that can't hack it at the top level.

As a Rovers fan i still thought Kear was the best man for FC, he is just a smart coach.

When looking back at 2005 and the Cup Final you knew FC had a chance and Kears enthusiasm shone through. On top of all that you could still picture him on top of a table with the players getting totally intoxicated (edited) necking some hard stuff out of the cup, quality...

Somehow no one can see Agar doing that

WOW im truly honoured

Nail on head mate, why can't the board see it, i have nothing against him as a bloke but hes in charge of our club is is so far out of his depth its untrue, im not joking but wolfie could do a better job

This is a R/L forum and posters have opinions ..Just because you disagree with their opinion ..Doesn't make yours correct, and doesn't give you the right to insult them .Some posters need to grow up

The Board have to take their share responsibility in this. I wonder how they can jizz this performance up.

we all can see his failings, his inability to motivate his team or even have a plan b, when plan a goes t!ts up, so why the fek cant the board see it? we sit in e8 and all around us the talk is Agar, the majority of fans are bemused as to why hes still in charge, and stuff this were 4th lark, were a poor team, with a poor coach and we will never be challenging for any honours with him in charge, yeah we beat KR last week, but its a derby ffs, if the players themselves cant get motivated, then theres no hope! it seems to me we are targetting matches, and this really p's me off, we should be going out every week giving our all for a win, it just doesnt feel like a united team to me, and the bucks got to stop with the coaching staff, they can all go for me, start afresh, because having Agar at the helm is going to damage tis club for many a year

EXPRO will be along in a minute to tell you. By the way, did you mean to put 'jizz'?

Nah, we won't see anything from him for 2 - 3 days.

One of the positives from tonight!!

Swear filter for HOWTHEFUCKCANTHEYEXPLAINTHISBAGOFSHIT.

They can play like that every week if it keeps that t[io[/isser away.

Well, i thought Wigan were excellent.
A point some people are missing.

I wouldn't say they were excellent, we made them look a lot better on the night then they were.

I don't think they are (or at least most aren't). I can take us being out-thought, but not out-fought. Wigan were superb and I never expected us to beat them. But if everyone had matched Moa's intensity and enthusiasm, at least we wouldn't have been humiliated on national TV.

Thought they were good but we really allowed them to play and made them look excellent. Same as the other 40+ point defeats against wigan and leeds were i remember people said they thought leeds/wigan were excellent in those games.

And I am going to watch American Football next season

no not missing that, as ive said earlier it was Men v under 10's!!
seriously, Wigan was excellent, and all credit to them, we wouldnt have won (imo) with the full squad playing, there defence was awesome, their attack as good, depressing to think we could have kicked on from our GF appereance and been a team like we saw tonight, but as weve come to realise this board hasnt any ambition to be like them, they just want to be the best off the pitch, f*k whats going on it! as long as them tills are ringing there happy!

They were , Richards had a field day. Hull couldn't put a finger on Tomkins and Silverwood was ...himself.

You play to the ref a the end of the day. You find good teams will push it as far as possible till the ref pulls them then.

Not saying we could have won, but a good performance would have pushed them tonight

Well you certainly saw 3 touchdowns tonight .

Like NFL style forward passes? O'Loughlin's pass for Gouldings try was the worst i've seen. Peyton Manning was applauding FFS!

They are the best at what they do, what they do is cheat.