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| Quote ="FCTID"Agree, but do you think all wingers are too level with the centres, not coming on to the ball, think two passes last night went behind him????Raynor on the other hand does run on to the pass,(when he gets it)'"
TBH the pass to him could and should have been better IMO.
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| Quote ="1865"IMO he's a liability... flicking the ball back in mid-air instead of just trying to catch it.. going to a Hudds player...
Simple really... catch it and hold it.. its not basketball!'"
If it had been Raynor people would be saying fair play to him for trying to keep the ball alive.
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| Quote ="1865"IMO he's a liability... flicking the ball back in mid-air instead of just trying to catch it.. going to a Hudds player...
Simple really... catch it and hold it.. its not basketball!'"
mate he did right
what if we scored would complain then
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"If it had been Raynor people would be saying fair play to him for trying to keep the ball alive.'"
Funny that isnt it!
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| Quote ="Hutchie"and get whalloped back 10 metres and put us under pressure or even be taken into touch'"
Yea.. cause he deserves a good whallop
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| Quote ="1865"IMO he's a liability... flicking the ball back in mid-air instead of just trying to catch it.. going to a Hudds player...
Simple really... catch it and hold it.. its not basketball!'"
Do you remember the CC semi? Two tries came from that exact same move.
If he'd caught it and held it he'd have been driven back or into touch.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Do you remember the CC semi? Two tries came from that exact same move.
If he'd caught it and held it he'd have been driven back or into touch.'"
Whatever you say wont change my thoughts on him, poor player... he's still got a lot to prove...
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| Quote ="1865"Whatever you say wont change my thoughts on him, poor player... he's still got a lot to prove...'"
Its a pity people cant just accept him as a good player and then change their minds if he lets us down. He has nothing to prove for me.
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| Quote ="1865"Whatever you say wont change my thoughts on him, poor player... he's still got a lot to prove...'"
I've never liked him myself. In fact I used to despise him. That doesn't stop me actually looking at what he's doing and giving credit where it's due, though.
Objectivity, mate. You might want to give it a try.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I've never liked him myself. In fact I used to despise him. That doesn't stop me actually looking at what he's doing and giving credit where it's due, though.
Objectivity, mate. You might want to give it a try.
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i agree i was one of those that wanted his smug head ripped off everytime he touched the ball against us .
But now its also true about not getting the service to show what he can do in attack..im so impressed with his defence nowadays its not pretty but its affective keep up the good work is all i can say
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| Quote ="Kosh"I've never liked him myself. In fact I used to despise him. That doesn't stop me actually looking at what he's doing and giving credit where it's due, though.
Objectivity, mate. You might want to give it a try.
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I dont need to try it i have done plenty of time in the past... Im just saying his performances upto now dont warrant a first team posistion.. Soon as raynors back he'll be the first one out of him and Briscoe i would drop.
Im not saying he's a sh4t player... im just saying he's playing sh5t! I know what he's capable of....
I just feel the team dont have any confidence within him other wise he'd be getting a sh4t load more ball time.
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| Funny how Briscoes mistake has not been picked up on
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Funny how Briscoes mistake has not been picked up on
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Thought that to myself this morning!
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| Well if Calderwood's no good, Thackray took his try on the wing well
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Funny how Briscoes mistake has not been picked up on
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He more than makes up for his errors. Can the same be said for Mark?
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Funny how Briscoes mistake has not been picked up on
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I never said Briscoe was perfect though did i He made a fair few mistakes.. But has still shone in previous performances and been a lot more consistent.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"If it had been Raynor people would be saying fair play to him for trying to keep the ball alive.'"
theres plenty of ing and moaning about raynors offloads
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| Quote ="1865"I dont need to try it i have done plenty of time in the past... Im just saying his performances upto now dont warrant a first team posistion.. Soon as raynors back he'll be the first one out of him and Briscoe i would drop.
Im not saying he's a sh4t player... im just saying he's playing sh5t! I know what he's capable of....
I just feel the team dont have any confidence within him other wise he'd be getting a sh4t load more ball time.'"
I've seen him play twice. He had a good game against Celtic and a not so good game last night. He's scored one less try than Briscoe with far less service. Defensively there's not much between them - in fact Calderwood is slightly ahead.
The amount of ball he's getting has feck all to do with confidence. Our right wingers NEVER get any ball and his centre isn't one. Having said that, reviewing the game this morning you can see signs of us trying to bring him into play more often - it's just not coming off yet.
When Raynor's back it will be an interesting dilemma for Agar and I don't think it's as clear-cut as you seem to think.
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| He did well when he looped round and appeared on the left
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| Quote ="Kosh"Not one of his better games tonight, but he's been fine in the other three. We don't use him properly, though - tonight he didn't get a single decent pass.
Statistics suggest he's doing OK overall.'"
He didn't get a single pass of any description in the second half.
Unfortunately some fans preconceptions about Calderwood were all too evident in the crowd last night. One bloke slating him as he had to stop to collect a pass in the first half due to it being a poor pass. Another in the second half slating him, after a grubber kick had been put in to the in goal area, for not diving and bending around the Hudds defender to score a try I reminded him that the rubber man from the fantastic 4 was fictional.
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| Quote ="1865"Whatever you say wont change my thoughts on him, poor player... he's still got a lot to prove...'"
In the last two games Tom Briscoe has cost us 2 tries, directly from either letting someone passed him or spilling the ball. Is he a poor player?
Calderwood has little to prove. You don't like him as a player on teh basis he once played for Leeds
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| Quote ="Bighead"theres plenty of ing and moaning about raynors offloads'"
is they
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| Did fine for me and did nothing wrong, played well. There are some games where he will be outstanding im sure and score a hatfull of tries, I just hope its in games were we need it. Not all players will be able to be brilliant all the time, just hope when they aren't, they are solid as that.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Calderwood has little to prove. You don't like him as a player on teh basis he once played for Leeds
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And those gloves. And the whinging. And the blubbing.
TBH there's plenty of things to dislike about Calderwood based on his past antics. No reason to not see how he's doing for us, though.
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