Plenty of wingers have been out muscled by their opposite number this season. Indeed Broughton has done it to other wingers this very season. The fact he got the better of Reece in his first ever SL game was not evidence that Reece isn't ready for SL it was simply evidence that an experienced winger got the better of an inexperienced one as he has done to more experienced wingers this season.

Also it wasn't one on one defence. He usually had at least one other defender helping him and the winger still scored.

True test of a player is how they improve from their mistakes, Lyne has not had the chance to give an improved performance yet.

I'm struggling to see where this keep Calderwood don't sign Meli arguement is coming from. IMO opinion I'd take Meli everytime and just to back it up I'll throw in a few stats ( I know!!).
In the past 5 seasons (including this one to date) Calderwood has played 81 games and scored just 23 tries, Meli has played 105 games and scored 67 tries. If either of the two are in decline it's Calderwood by some distance, the last time he got into double figures was back in 2005. Meli has this season so far has equalled his best return in SL and there is still someway to go yet, he'll score 20+ no problem.

You could also say that Calderwood have very few opportunites last year with us. Also he was at Wigan when they were at their lowest ebb. Meli on the other hand was with a high flying Saints team so the stats are always going to be skewed in his favour.

You could probably argue that the clubs they have both played for have had a significant bearing on their try scoring records. I'd keep Calderwood (if fit) for his attitude and the fact that he's British. He's a very good try scorer, but like any winger he needs the service. That being said, I wouldn't be upset with us signing Meli if Calderwood doesn't prove his fitness and Meli was the best available replacement.

Yeah i appreciate that but the facts are clear to me over which player is the better of the 2, and the fact that Meli has been employed by St's for the past 5 seasons also tells it's own story. Calderwood is finished sadly IMO and certainly doesn't deserve a contract extension with us, he's managed just 22 games for us and scored 6 tries.

22 games the majority in a side that struggled to get the ball past the second row never mind to the centres or wingers.

Look I have nothing against Calderwood in fact I like his attitude but IMO Meli is the superior player and I want the best we can get of those available, so it's Meli for me. His performance at the KC was everything I like to see in a winger, strong, fast, aggressive and dominant plus 4 tries.

Personally i wouldnt sign Meli or keep Calderwood. Both injury prone.

How many tries would calderwood have scored on the wing at saints in the last 5 years? meli doesn't even score as many as the dog turd that is ade gardner

Most of those games were last year when he was voted the fans' player of the year. He's had an awful time with injuries this season, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's finished.

As regards Meli, Saints seem to have a habit of getting rid of players at the right time. You have to ask why they're not renewing his contract.

Meli has averaged 23 league starts over the past 4 full seasons how is that injury prone?

So is that a reason to keep Calderwood!!! Who has been released by both Leeds and Wigan.

I dont know the full stats but how many has he missed in the last 18 months?

I'd rather we stuck with youth and played either Lyne or Hall.

Personally next year i'd move Tom Briscoe to the right wing and play Hall on the left wing. Lyne as backup.

Like I said, I'd only keep Calderwood if he could get back into the side and show the form that won him so many plaudits last year. When Calderwood was released by Leeds and Wigan, he was a lot younger than Meli is now. Saints don't usually get rid of players who have been in their side for the last 5 years without good reason.

I thought Hall was a left centre and only a left centre? With Yeaman and Whiting ahead of him for that slot, Hall needs to be moved on and his salary invested in strengthening elsewhere.

Hall is a left sided player and only a left sided player. (as i've always said)

No, no, I'm sure you said 'centre'. Either way, he's not needed and if we want to progress, we have to let some players go in order to be able to sign better ones. Renewing everyone's contract will get us nowhere.

I've actually mostly said said but have said wing a lot too if you go back and read all of my Hall related posts over the last couple of years.

I disagree about not needed. With the right coaching and picked in the right position he is a valuable asset. We'll already be using the Calderwood money and the Cusack money to name but two to strengthen so it's not like we are drastically changing things, and rightly so. We wont be renewing everyones contracts, but likewise we wont be bringing in masses of new players.

You make me laugh, you do. You spend hours knocking Lauaki, yet you describe Hall as a 'valuable asset'. Utterly unfathomable.

1 year deal for each of them

and well deserved too!!!

Expected as much with what props are available out there, hopefully both on lower wages then they are currently on.

Looks like we'll have a lot of players coming off contract next year.
Could be an interesting year recruitment wise. I expect the club are planning for it already. I would hope so anyway!.

I think Lauaki is a valuable asset too, just not value for money currently and needs to be better more consistently. I've never said anything other than that.

Hall is a valuable asset for the chunk of cap that he takes and the positions he covers etc. He too needs to up his performances and play more consistently.