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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"But would Sammut count on overseas quota? I don't think so!!'"
I hope so, it's bad enough with have 2 questionnable fed trained players without adding another. We don't want to turn into HKA.
Quote ="The Eclipse"Sammut ranks up there with Tim Smith and Michael Witt as amongst the worst defenders to have played the game.'"
Who cares? You don't buy a HB for his defensive qualities.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"But would Sammut count on overseas quota? I don't think so!!'"
There isn't a quota as such any more. We're allowed a maximum of 5 overseas trained players and he'd count on that.
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"Sammut ranks up there with Tim Smith and Michael Witt as amongst the worst defenders to have played the game.'"
Dont forget Dobson
But yes, Im surprised it hasn't already been mentioned about his defence but Im sure your outstanding S/R's can could give him a hand out wide.
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"Good to see you on here, rubbishing FC's rumoured signings. You did the same about O'Meley whilst you described Clinton as "fantastic" and say his has "impressed" over the season. O'Meley played 3 fewer games, of course, but still:
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Oh yes, the times some get grief for using those stats to back up how good a player is on here lol
And seeing as you have a serious amount of quotes stored somewhere, can you please show me the ones where I rubbished the O'Meley signing? or the recent Westerman signing?
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"Good to see you on here, rubbishing FC's rumoured signings. You did the same about O'Meley whilst you described Clinton as "fantastic" and say his has "impressed" over the season. O'Meley played 3 fewer games, of course, but still:
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Oh yes, the times some get grief for using those stats to back up how good a player is on here lol
And seeing as you have a serious amount of quotes stored somewhere, can you please show me the ones where I rubbished the O'Meley signing? or the recent Westerman signing?
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| Quote ="Digby"There isn't a quota as such any more. We're allowed a maximum of 5 overseas trained players and he'd count on that.'"
But would he?? He's played internationally for Malta, i would argue that it is illegal to be 'overseas trained' as the EU is a 'single nation'. I thought the overseas rule only applies to people from outside the European Union.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"But would he?? He's played internationally for Malta, i would argue that it is illegal to be 'overseas trained' as the EU is a 'single nation'. I thought the overseas rule only applies to people from outside the European Union.'"
Yes, it where you where trained he was trained in Aus, so unless he can get exemption like Vella for being here before the rules where introduced then he is quota.
Not that it really matters as we have a quota space.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"But would he?? He's played internationally for Malta, i would argue that it is illegal to be 'overseas trained' as the EU is a 'single nation'. I thought the overseas rule only applies to people from outside the European Union.'"
He would under the current version of the rules. Overseas-trained and not here for the start of the 2008 season. I'd shy away from saying 'illegal', but the RFL have found applying their rules to be challenging - which is why they have had to retreat a number of times since the original version was introduced.
Economics is often more powerful than legislation and if the NRL gets its big new TV deal (and then expands?), that may lead to more opportunities for home-grown players in SL than the quota system has managed to provide.
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| Let's get it right Sammutt is not a world class scrum half and won't turn us into a trophy winning teams overnight but...he does offer something very different to what we already have and would bring some off the cuff creativity. He can also play in a few positions including hooker so would addgenuine cover to some key areas.
A good signing if it happens. Heard last week it was but not heard anything this week.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"But would he?? He's played internationally for Malta, i would argue that it is illegal to be 'overseas trained' as the EU is a 'single nation'. I thought the overseas rule only applies to people from outside the European Union.'"
You are Neil Hudgell and I claim my £5. Why people want us to continually duck and dive to weave around the quota system is beyond me. The last 3 succesful sides (Wigan, Leeds and Saints) had a much stronger core of home-grown players and didn't do it by filling up every spot with an Aussie (Hull KR, Crusaders)
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"Good to see you on here, rubbishing FC's rumoured signings. You did the same about O'Meley whilst you described Clinton as "fantastic" and say his has "impressed" over the season. O'Meley played 3 fewer games, of course, but still:
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Oh yes, the times some get grief for using those stats to back up how good a player is on here lol
And seeing as you have a serious amount of quotes stored somewhere, can you please show me the ones where I rubbished the O'Meley signing? or the recent Westerman signing?'"
You still searching?
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"Good to see you on here, rubbishing FC's rumoured signings. You did the same about O'Meley whilst you described Clinton as "fantastic" and say his has "impressed" over the season. O'Meley played 3 fewer games, of course, but still:
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Oh yes, the times some get grief for using those stats to back up how good a player is on here lol
And seeing as you have a serious amount of quotes stored somewhere, can you please show me the ones where I rubbished the O'Meley signing? or the recent Westerman signing?'"
You still searching?
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"You are Neil Hudgell and I claim my £5. Why people want us to continually duck and dive to weave around the quota system is beyond me. The last 3 succesful sides (Wigan, Leeds and Saints) had a much stronger core of home-grown players and didn't do it by filling up every spot with an Aussie (Hull KR, Crusaders)'"
I'm not trying to duck and dive around anything. I much prefer to have all english or even local lads... I was just pointing out the legalities, if someone is European then you you cannot restict their trade and they can work anywhere in the EU. Rightly or wrongly thems the rules.
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Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"can you please show me the ones where I rubbished the O'Meley signing? '"
He's lazy...
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=418483&start=60
Quote ="Rupert Pupkin, about Mark O'Meley"I wonder who has been having a word about him not putting in the effort over the last few seasons, whoever it was, it aint worked
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..past his best:
Quote ="Rupert Pupkin about our international/SOO signings"If all the players played to their international/SOO form then possibly yes but [uthose days are gone IMO.[/u.'"
...poorly rated by coaching staff Quote ="Rupert Pupkin, sarcastically"Im sure there are a few nice comments from the Roosters coaching staff regarding O'Meley's departure. '"
And as for rubbishing other rumoured/actual signings/new playersothers:
Sam Moa Quote ="Rupert Pupkin, on Rovers missing out on Sam Moa"Im gutted lol. I'm happy he didn't jump ship and sign for us. I dont see why our club would rate Moa worthy of a decent contract.'"
Lauaki Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"At fault for two tries last week in my eyes, missing two easy one-on-one tackles. Looked nothing special again yesterday, will need a huge amount of improvement.'"
Tansey Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Tansey IMO has a hell of alot to prove as a full back.'"
Long Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Im sorry to disappoint you, I would have had some serious doubts if my club had signed him, obviously past his best. Long is past it'"
And even the more established players aren't rated.
Manu Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Manu is over-rated and is not in the same league as both Newton and Galea'"
Plus the obsession with Briscoe (Shaun)>Tansey and the Berrigan bitchfest. Apart from Fitz, do you fully rate any FC player?
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Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"can you please show me the ones where I rubbished the O'Meley signing? '"
He's lazy...
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=418483&start=60
Quote ="Rupert Pupkin, about Mark O'Meley"I wonder who has been having a word about him not putting in the effort over the last few seasons, whoever it was, it aint worked
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..past his best:
Quote ="Rupert Pupkin about our international/SOO signings"If all the players played to their international/SOO form then possibly yes but [uthose days are gone IMO.[/u.'"
...poorly rated by coaching staff Quote ="Rupert Pupkin, sarcastically"Im sure there are a few nice comments from the Roosters coaching staff regarding O'Meley's departure. '"
And as for rubbishing other rumoured/actual signings/new playersothers:
Sam Moa Quote ="Rupert Pupkin, on Rovers missing out on Sam Moa"Im gutted lol. I'm happy he didn't jump ship and sign for us. I dont see why our club would rate Moa worthy of a decent contract.'"
Lauaki Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"At fault for two tries last week in my eyes, missing two easy one-on-one tackles. Looked nothing special again yesterday, will need a huge amount of improvement.'"
Tansey Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Tansey IMO has a hell of alot to prove as a full back.'"
Long Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Im sorry to disappoint you, I would have had some serious doubts if my club had signed him, obviously past his best. Long is past it'"
And even the more established players aren't rated.
Manu Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Manu is over-rated and is not in the same league as both Newton and Galea'"
Plus the obsession with Briscoe (Shaun)>Tansey and the Berrigan bitchfest. Apart from Fitz, do you fully rate any FC player?
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"He's lazy...
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..past his best:
...poorly rated by coaching staff
And as for rubbishing other rumoured/actual signings/new playersothers:
Sam Moa LauakiTanseyLong And even the more established players aren't rated.
ManuPlus the obsession with Briscoe (Shaun)>Tansey and the Berrigan bitchfest. Apart from Fitz, do you fully rate any FC player?
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Still no mention from me of O'Meley saying he was a poor signing, his coaching staff did make comments about him though, did they not? He did a great job for you guys last season, better than I thought.
Moa, still proved nothing, not many mins on the pitch.
Lauaki, shown he is a liability, poor defence.
Tansey, pretty inconsistent.
Long, Injured a hell of a lot and didnt really perform that well when on the pitch.
4 out of 5 I got right!!!!! lol
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"He's lazy...
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=418483&start=60
..past his best:
...poorly rated by coaching staff
And as for rubbishing other rumoured/actual signings/new playersothers:
Sam Moa LauakiTanseyLong And even the more established players aren't rated.
ManuPlus the obsession with Briscoe (Shaun)>Tansey and the Berrigan bitchfest. Apart from Fitz, do you fully rate any FC player?
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Still no mention from me of O'Meley saying he was a poor signing, his coaching staff did make comments about him though, did they not? He did a great job for you guys last season, better than I thought.
Moa, still proved nothing, not many mins on the pitch.
Lauaki, shown he is a liability, poor defence.
Tansey, pretty inconsistent.
Long, Injured a hell of a lot and didnt really perform that well when on the pitch.
4 out of 5 I got right!!!!! lol
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| :29qtb87aApart from Fitz, do you fully rate any FC player? :29qtb87a:lol
And that's only because his old man used to play for the Dobbins.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Still no mention from me of O'Meley saying he was a poor signing, his coaching staff did make comments about him though, did they not? He did a great job for you guys last season, better than I thought.
Moa, still proved nothing, not many mins on the pitch.
Lauaki, shown he is a liability, poor defence.
Tansey, pretty inconsistent.
Long, Injured a hell of a lot and didnt really perform that well when on the pitch.
4 out of 5 I got right!!!!! lol'"
The thing that's baffling about you is you don't have a good word to say about any of our squad yet tipped us to finish in the play-offs. Agar must be some sort of genius by your logic.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The thing that's baffling about you is you don't have a good word to say about any of our squad yet tipped us to finish in the play-offs. Agar must be some sort of genius by your logic.
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Agar is the best part of the squad for us!
Out of the backs, there is only Tom Briscoe who I really like as a player.
Tansey makes more mistakes then producing quality moments.
I would play Berrigan in the centre because Houghton is out shining him in the hooking role, plus he did a good job in the centre towards the back end of the season. Still not lived upto his huge contract though.
In the forwards, obviously I like Fitz, O'Meley and Houghton is very good for his age.
I think Manu and Tickle are decent players.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why do people listen to Rupert
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Good point, well made.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Good point, well made.
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4 out of 5 right
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Let's get it right Sammutt is not a world class scrum half and won't turn us into a trophy winning teams overnight but...he does offer something very different to what we already have and would bring some off the cuff creativity. He can also play in a few positions including hooker so would addgenuine cover to some key areas.
A good signing if it happens. Heard last week it was but not heard anything this week.'"
But how many SL teams have been able to sign a world class scrum half in there prime? None off hand, Sammut is young and talented, and if we sign him will be a very good signing in my opinion, and realistically the best we canget.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"
Moa, still proved nothing, not many mins on the pitch.
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Do you even face the pitch when you attend the KC?
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"But would he?? He's played internationally for Malta, i would argue that it is illegal to be 'overseas trained' as the EU is a 'single nation'. I thought the overseas rule only applies to people from outside the European Union.'"
No, anyone that was trained outside of the UK is classed as non-fed trained and would count on the non-fed restrictions. I take your point regarding Europeans being qualified to ply the trade anywhere within the Union though.
Berrigan is now classed as non-fed trained but I understand this is only possible as he signed his deal pre rule implementation (200icon_cool.gif.
I find it about as clear as mud.
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| Quote ="jordanp"But how many SL teams have been able to sign a world class scrum half in there prime? None off hand, Sammut is young and talented, and if we sign him will be a very good signing in my opinion, and realistically the best we canget.'"
This season I agree next season I think we could get a better SH.
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