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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"The thing is he has not used that card at all, and has done nothing but apologised so far,
today seems to be the domain of those who have never sinned , tell you what lets stone him whilst were at it'"
Apologized and then been on the disciplinary (twice) again very soon thereafter.
One disciplinary, fair enough, as you say every one makes mistakes. Two would suggest he'd not learnt from the first one, and to have a 3rd reeks of either a) not caring or b) taking the , both of which mean that his "apologies" count for the squareroot of feckall as far as I am concerned.
If he was truely apologetic he'd have not got himself dropped for the playoff game last year, or the Cas game this year.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Apologized and then been on the disciplinary (twice) again very soon thereafter.
One disciplinary, fair enough, as you say every one makes mistakes. Two would suggest he'd not learnt from the first one, and to have a 3rd reeks of either a) not caring or b) taking the mickey, both of which mean that his "apologies" count for the squareroot of feckall as far as I am concerned.
If he was truely apologetic he'd have not got himself dropped for the playoff game last year, or the Cas game this year.'"
In a nutshell
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| If what we think we know is true, then he has to go.
He has had too many chances and the club cannot be held to ransom. The rest of the dressing room would surely be p*ssed off with him. Richard Horne comes in a for a lot of criticism on here but last season he was patched up and put on the pitch when he really should have been sat in the stands. Tansey was sat in the stands because of his own ill discipline and stupidity and put undue pressure on his coach and teammates. It's easy to make excuses saying that he's young, etc. but at the end of the day he is a fully grown adult who is very well rewarded for what he does.
I presume the delay is due to the club ensuring that due process is carried out; nowadays terminating somebodies contract is not straightforward. Any mistake on the employers part would be deemed as unfair dismissal which can be expensive.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"The thing is he has not used that card at all, and has done nothing but apologised so far,
today seems to be the domain of those who have never sinned , tell you what lets stone him whilst were at it'"
FFS my heart bleeds!!!
If it had been a first offence then people would give him a quite rightly a chance but when he has had 12 months since his first incident to sort himself out and he obviously hasnt leart from the first chance or second chance people quite rightly feel a little p!$$ed of with him. To be up on a 3rd disciplinary 5 months after the last just takes the biscuit so close to the season opener too plus been thin on the ground player wise.
If reports of him been off his face again in Leeds over the weekend are true then he really is sorry isnt he? Unless he is sorry for himself so his apologies in essence mean nothing.
Oh and for the record yes I have sinned as you put it but I had the sense to learn from it and move on not repeat the trick like most decent people who value their living whether they enjoy it or not.
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| The reports from Saturday are 100% true...he may well have been to a wedding in Pudsey, but then went on the The Box in Headingley.
I'm not whiter than white, but like Chris just said, any mistakes i've made i've learnt from. I don't think Jordan has the respect for himself or the common sense to see what a privileged position he is in.
If it's the people around him that are leading him astray then he needs to sack them off quickly....just look at Gazza....he had a team of 'hangers on' and look what happened to him!
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| Quote ="Seph"The reports from Saturday are 100% true...he may well have been to a wedding in Pudsey, but then went on the The Box in Headingley.
I'm not whiter than white, but like Chris just said, any mistakes i've made i've learnt from. I don't think Jordan has the respect for himself or the common sense to see what a privileged position he is in.
If it's the people around him that are leading him astray then he needs to sack them off quickly....just look at Gazza....he had a team of 'hangers on' and look what happened to him!'"
Gazza is a very good comparison to be fair, because of a lack of help and guidance he became a serial visitor to AC clinics and still is!! a genius now burnt out with a lifeclock ticking ten times faster than most folk!!!
what everyone is conviniently forgetting is that i most certainly do not agree with his actions or his way of life AND knowing his circle of friends i without doubt want to bang his head against the wall however that does not take away the fact that if he has a problem with drink he needs help not bagging because bagging will make that issue worse by the day .
No i am not his dad his keeper or his councellor but i do see both sides of the fence on this one and feel sorry for the lad as is my opinion and were all entitled to them but my stance is not a beligerent one over Jordan and neither is it to cause termoil on the thread but only because my style is to try to see the best in everyone and i hate to see anyone suffering especially someone so talented as Jordan ...
BUT I DO NOT CONDONE OR SUPPORT HIS ACTIONS
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| Quote ="Seph"The reports from Saturday are 100% true...he may well have been to a wedding in Pudsey, but then went on the The Box in Headingley. quote
So in reality its usual actions from a young fella leaving a family wedding isnt it??maybe he went out afterwards??
thats his choice and i am not his keeper
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| Quote ="Chris28"missing the point spectacularly'"
not really
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| Quote ="simon_tem"
I presume the delay is due to the club ensuring that due process is carried out; nowadays terminating somebodies contract is not straightforward. Any mistake on the employers part would be deemed as unfair dismissal which can be expensive.'"
He was with the Chiefs today with his legal people for e meeting, like i said earlier I do not condone his actions at all but feel sorry for the lad , obviously a minority but i wonder how others would feel if they had folk beying for blood to have them sacked like some on here ... if he gets the sack then he has deserved it and been his own worst enemy but i just see a lot in the kid worth salvaging IMO.
BUT as i said i am led to believe he will be playing somewhere else very shortly
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"not really
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Yes really.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Yes really.'"
but not really chris, the playing staff all believe he is as thick as a whale sandwich because of the way he has acted and he has few friends in the club BUT they all know he has the X factor too including those two player
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"but not really chris, the playing staff all believe he is as thick as a whale sandwich because of the way he has acted and he has few friends in the club BUT they all know he has the X factor too including those two player'"
I get that bit. The point made originally was "would we be making such a fuss about talents and X factor if it was Dowes or Washy in trouble". It wasn't anything to do with what those two think about it all
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"So in reality its usual actions from a young fella leaving a family wedding isnt it??maybe he went out afterwards??
thats his choice and i am not his keeper'"
Not the actions of someone who is remourseful over his misdemeanours though as you'd have us believe
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"not really
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Yes really.
Spouting tripe about 'Let's have a stoning' is massively missing the point. Fact is most if not all fans would have loved him to have learnt his lesson after the first misdemeanor. Most would agree that he deserved that second chance which he got. In the biggest game of last season he was unavailable for the same reason. He was given a third chance despite having totally disrupted the preparation of the team for the game that was the target game for the whole season. Given that third chance he's at it again before the next competitive game has even kicked off. More disruption. Not acceptable. If he turned up ed as a machine operator in a factory he'd be a liability just the same.
It doesn't really matter what his issues are. Hull FC can't operate like this wondering if he'll be available from one week to the next. I hope he solves his problems whatever they might be but there's no room to carry a player who three times has taken the out of the team, fans and club.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"He was with the Chiefs today with his legal people for e meeting, like i said earlier I do not condone his actions at all but feel sorry for the lad , obviously a minority but i wonder how others would feel if they had folk beying for blood to have them sacked like some on here ... if he gets the sack then he has deserved it and been his own worst enemy but i just see a lot in the kid worth salvaging IMO.
BUT as i said i am led to believe he will be playing somewhere else very shortly'"
It concerns me that you're telling us he's going to be sacked as you're always wrong
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It concerns me that you're telling us he's going to be sacked as you're always wrong'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Not the actions of someone who is remourseful over his misdemeanours though as you'd have us believe'"
so he cant go to a family wedding either
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"so he cant go to a family wedding either
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Luke Robinson missed his own stag and wedding for rugby, thats professionalism for you, poor sod got married with both arms in pot too for his troubles
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It concerns me that you're telling us he's going to be sacked as you're always wrong'"
wrong on so many levels, however i do look forward to the day you contribute something that isnt a stalking attack on the posters , something grumpy or something anti agar or in fact something other than what you have read on here but hey ..
and if you read the posts i have made i have not said he is going to be sacked, i have said in my opinion and from what i have heard his days are numbered..
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Not the actions of someone who is remourseful over his misdemeanours though as you'd have us believe'"
Tansey stuck out like a sore thumb on Saturday, in a bar full of students in fancy dress that's saying something. I was embarrassed when the lads I was with pointed him out.
Plenty of young lads, like myself, go out at weekends but still know when enough is enough, and don't get completely off their tits like Jordan did.
Anyone else would keep their head down for abit. One of the other disciplinaries was because he'd not washed the clubs stamp off his hand before turning up to training the following morning, which was noticed after he said he'd not been out. Obviously not the smartest of blokes.
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"Luke Robinson missed his own stag and wedding for rugby, thats professionalism for you, poor sod got married with both arms in pot too for his troubles'"
top man, 100% PROFESSIONAL as they should be cracking player i would love to see in Black and white, Jordan hasnt grown up yet we can all see that ME TOO
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"so he cant go to a family wedding either
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I think he was alluding to the fact that someone in trouble for drinking would be careful not to be going out in the public domain and having a skinful. The wedding was fine but to go around the town after is just rubbing it in.
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| Quote ="Dnats Ynnepeerht"Tansey stuck out like a sore thumb on Saturday, in a bar full of students in fancy dress that's saying something. I was embarrassed when the lads I was with pointed him out.
Plenty of young lads, like myself, go out at weekends but still know when enough is enough, and don't get completely off their tits like Jordan did.
Anyone else would keep their head down for abit. One of the other disciplinaries was because he'd not washed the clubs stamp off his hand before turning up to training the following morning, which was noticed after he said he'd not been out. [uObviously not the smartest of blokes[/u.'"
and in with the wrong circle of pals doesnt help as you will then have noticed , if he was with whom i think he will have been with there was another three SL players with him too
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| Quote ="hullbg"I think he was alluding to the fact that someone in trouble for drinking would be careful not to be going out in the public domain and having a skinful. The wedding was fine but to go around the town after is just rubbing it in.'"
i know !! and i agree too,
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"so he cant go to a family wedding either
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Course he can, but someone who's not exactly flavour of the month with his employer for getting trashed should really think about his behaviour at the wedding. If he'd been on medication that said don't drink would it have been acceptable for him to do so?
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