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| Quote ="Faithful One"Something like that...'"
Love to be wrong when so many positives tonight
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| wasnt expecting that result an performance tonight! fantastic result considering who we had on the bench
even thought childs let the game flow too for once
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| The never say die attitude in defence has returned.
Thought we were going to be in for a long night when I saw the teams. Also thought last Sunday may have caught up with us. Never saw that result coming!
Connor and Fonua were absolutely superb. Fash and Turgut really look the part as well. Credit to Radford on how he's brought the young players through and developed them in the right way.
It feels as though we're building something special here. It feels very different to other false dawns we've witnessed in the past. The way the fans are reacting to the players, the spirit that's been instilled in the playing group. Good things are happening.
Big credit to the club as well for the last few weeks. Hull and Proud week was superb. The Jack Harrison week has been respectful and moving.
Proud of the club as a whole. All class.
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| Quote ="Cardiff_05"On the whole, it was fantastic to see us play for the whole game (a small spell in the first half aside) and not let our advantage diminish in the second half. Connor and Fonua (my MOTM) were excellent and are showing real signs of an outstanding partnership. Sneyd was immense again and pretty much played in a tuxedo the whole night. His goal kicking, and sorry to sound like a stuck record, but it's worth so many points on the table throughout the whole season - he's the most important player we've signed in the past few years in terms of what he offers to the gameplan.
To be top at this stage of the season, with injury issues, discipline issues, problems with playing 80 minutes, big defeats (especially at home) and not exactly firing on all cylinders is a real credit to the club, especially considering that in recent weeks we have seen youngsters in Fash, Litten, Downs, Turgut, Matongo all get really good game time.
The squad, as a direct consequence of these youngsters getting valuable game time and experience, plus the likes of Houghton, Ellis, Talanoa, Bowden and Watts (albeit for discipline reasons) having a bit of enforced rest, will be all the better for it and maybe we will be able to make this count as we reach the summer and autumn months, and go that one step further in the Super 8s.'"
Though to a degree some of the forced rests are for discipline it looks like the penny has well and truly dropped for LR. He still couldn't see last season that he needed to bring in the younger squad members mid and latter part of the season even despite the Warrington Easter win. Pressure to keep winning, win some silverware and using your senior players (who stayed uninjured) plus inexperience on his part meant that didn't happen, that he chucked loads of 'kids' in pre-season was an indicator that the penny had dropped.
hull always produce forwards, we've never been short of home grown talent in that dept, it's generally in the backs to a degree where we've lacked home-grown at times, there's only Shaul at FB out of 7, most definiely our ability to produce quality half-backs regularly has being a problem for many, many years.
Tommy Lee could have been, IF Cooke had stayed we'd have been in a better position because we were trying to fill his shoes for best part of a decade with imports in the search for success and thus youngsters don't get games to prove themselves or are discarded/leave because they simply won't get a chance other than to cover injury when all the square pegs have run out. It's a circular and indeed cyclical problem.
it's going to take some more years now I feel for the academy to produce backs that will get a chance, we've lost plenty recently so not sure where the next lad is going to come from that will get given a shot. Logan did but was dropped in favour of yeaman, we lost Crooks and Lineham and Lancaster has also gone by the way-side with Dean & Tyson Wilson, possibly could lose JA too which I think would be a mistake not to keep him and use him as a 13
However the young forwards in Fash, Matongo, Litten, Turgut and others can start to cement 1st XVII places, a forward line including rotations of Hadley, Green, Bowden, Watts, Taylor, Fash, Litten, Turgut, Downs, Matongo and possibly JA would be phenominal in terms of hull grown players.
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| After a good start I thought we were gonna get another mullering when Westerman strolled in for their second after Sika's binning.
Here we go again!!!
Got the penalty close to their line and wasn't happy about us taking the two, was thinking, we'll need more than a bloody four point lead against these lot in the second half.
Fine lines, we get away with one straight after the break and never look back keeping them scoreless whilst taking our chances.
Sneyd's 40-20 ability is invaluable.
Great strength and determination from Mahe and Albert for their tries.
Fash, Turgut and Downs all getting game time.
Manchester under the bright lights again.
We couldn't, could we?
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| It was a good win in the circumstances. I thought fonua and connor were excellent, sneyd kicked the best he has for some time and fash was like a man possessed. green also stood up well IMO and had probably his most effective game this season, maybe ever - he really upped his workrate last night with more game time.
manu was stupid with the chicken wing and i expect to lose him for 3 or 4 games now. Both he and mini worked hard but they're not getting good ball so struggling a bit with ball in hand.
Our goal line defence has been good the last 2 weeks but we're still missing far too many tackles in other parts of the field. This needs sorting but it was pleasing that the ball retention was significantly better last night and we gave away far fewer penalties until that last 15 minutes or so when I think we were happy to concede them to take the sting out of wire.
child was less pedantic than usual but completely failed to police the 10m at the PTB meaning wire were on us before we'd even played the ball for 1/2 the game.
Still a good win against a near full strength wire coming into the game with 4 wins on the bounce.
Sort out our defence, keep the errors and penalties low and we will be a very tough side to beat this season
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| Quote ="hullmackem"Childs is a disgrace !!'"
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| Quote ="sausagefingers"It's child ffs
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| Quote ="bonaire"Love to be wrong when so many positives tonight'"
I was dubious myself before kick off. They stood up well. Very impressive.
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| Great to see Fashy playing well never takes a backward step, Turgut getting better by the game, good too see Downs getting some minutes too.
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| What about fonuas try saving tackle on lineham,smacked him right into touch,when he thought he as goin to score.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"After a good start I thought we were gonna get another mullering when Westerman strolled in for their second after Sika's binning.
Here we go again!!!
Got the penalty close to their line and wasn't happy about us taking the two, was thinking, we'll need more than a bloody four point lead against these lot in the second half.
Fine lines, we get away with one straight after the break and never look back keeping them scoreless whilst taking our chances.
Sneyd's 40-20 ability is invaluable.
Great strength and determination from Mahe and Albert for their tries.
Fash, Turgut and Downs all getting game time.
Manchester under the bright lights again.
We couldn't, could we?'"
Taking the 2 was a no brainer. Those points are a gift for snyed. I thought game would be alot closer and they would be invaluable but end of the day it gave us a breather as I think we had been defending abit at the time irc. Ball back keeps them starved of possession and we go again. Leeds were masters of this with sinfield were in 10 mins you could go from being in a tight game to couple of trys behind and just unable to get your hands on the ball. Our game management is another level to 2/3 seasons ago
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| Quote ="threepennystander"Taking the 2 was a no brainer. '"
In hindsight, yep.
All turned out spiffing anyway.
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| Great display . Desire and commitment ,and scored some great tries .
The young lads really stood up and did themselves proud.
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| That was brilliant
Feel sorry for Jack Hughes, getting an absolute bell ringer off the leagues scrawniest half back must be embarrassing.
Thought our discipline around the ruck was better than it has been, and wasn't happy about Sika going off but see why now I've watched it back. Think the booing was more at Atkins absolutely milking it. There was a spell late on where we got scrappy again and we were punished for it but absorbed everything they threw at us.
As for Wire, I'd be worried if I was one of their fans. Agar's Plan B 5 drive rugby, baffling and unbalanced interchanges, and players going completely missing. Did Westerman go off injured after his try? And I didn't realise Ashton Sims was playing until about the 70th.
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| Quote ="mosher"Can't make it tonight, away in the Dales for our Wedding Anniversary. Lets keep the momentum rolling and get to the top of the table. Another big game needed from Washy but if he plays like last week that won't be a problem. COYH.'"
Congratulations Mosher lad !!
Not normally superstitious, but think we should
swap seats at the Grand Final pal.
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| HDM:
"Mahe Fonua with 253 metres, five tackle busts, three offloads, one try and an assist last night for Hull FC against Warrington. #beastmode"
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| Mahe Fonua last night:
1 try, 1 try assist, 2 clean breaks, 5 tackle busts, 23 carries, 253 metres, average gain 11 metres.
Not a bad night at the office.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"HDM:
"Mahe Fonua with 253 metres, five tackle busts, three offloads, one try and an assist last night for Hull FC against Warrington. #beastmode"'"
Plus the craziest haircut in the world.
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| fonua has been unplayable in the last 2 games. Much better now he's back on the wing
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| Turned up last night fully expecting a defeat and although Warrington have not been playing well we were on a short turnround after playing wonder team Cas with 12 men and I thought we would fade in 2nd half with what seemed to be the weakest bench we have put out for a long time. How wrong I was. That was a brilliant performance by every player. The youngsters fitted in really well. Have watched them in the HULL academy and Under 23's and have been impressed but they often dont progress. This batch seem to be different particularly Fash & Turgut who were all over the pitch. Cannot usually cope with Child (& Hick) but he did not do bad and although the usual cock-ups was same to both sides. Only complaint Brown should have at least got 10 mins for lifting especially when Manu was binned which was warranted. Be interesting to see what our wonderful disciplinary mob make of it if anything.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"fonua has been unplayable in the last 2 games. Much better now he's back on the wing'"
Make that the last 3 games - 216m against Leigh. Agree that he's better on the wing but mostly from a defensive point of view where both he and the team look better for it.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"
child was less pedantic than usual but completely failed to police the 10m at the PTB meaning wire were on us before we'd even played the ball for 1/2 the game.
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Noticed in the Hudds/leeds game, Huddersfield players ever so slightly delayed 'heeling' the ball after placing it on the ground and were deliberate in putting their foot on the ball, this caught leeds out twice as players were encroaching and the split second delay on putting foot on ball made it far more obvious for the ref to see (players offside).
TBH I thought Child deliberately ignored a really obvious forward opass in that first half by them, he was in line and it was as plain as the nose on your face, not even close to being a 'flat' pass.
Whilst we all want a flowing game I don't want that to be at the cost of ignoring infractions by players, stick to the rules and make the players modify their behaviour (& that of the coaches too), if players know they will get pinged more frequently they are less likely to try to get away with infringing.
However the ridiculous over-reaction to the non sending off of Westwood (after his swinging high tackle) has meant incidents were contact was made but not fault of tackler have being dealt with in a totally different manner and IMHO outside the realms of fairness.
officiating has gone backwards under Ganson
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Quote ="Erik the not red"Make that the last 3 games - 216m against Leigh. Agree that he's better on the wing but mostly from a defensive point of view where both he and the team look better for it.'"
Most metres by an individual, 1682m, averaging 8.58 but misses more than a 1/4 of his tackles and leading the rankings in errors of any player, but would you want to replace him!
www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... info/11471
if you look at our stats, worst ones are way too many missed tackles, errors aren't too clever either and we've had 7 yellows and 1 red... ouch!
www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... club_stats
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Quote ="Erik the not red"Make that the last 3 games - 216m against Leigh. Agree that he's better on the wing but mostly from a defensive point of view where both he and the team look better for it.'"
Most metres by an individual, 1682m, averaging 8.58 but misses more than a 1/4 of his tackles and leading the rankings in errors of any player, but would you want to replace him!
www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... info/11471
if you look at our stats, worst ones are way too many missed tackles, errors aren't too clever either and we've had 7 yellows and 1 red... ouch!
www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... club_stats
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Noticed in the Hudds/leeds game, Huddersfield players ever so slightly delayed 'heeling' the ball after placing it on the ground and were deliberate in putting their foot on the ball, this caught leeds out twice as players were encroaching and the split second delay on putting foot on ball made it far more obvious for the ref to see (players offside).
TBH I thought Child deliberately ignored a really obvious forward opass in that first half by them, he was in line and it was as plain as the nose on your face, not even close to being a 'flat' pass.
Whilst we all want a flowing game I don't want that to be at the cost of ignoring infractions by players, stick to the rules and make the players modify their behaviour (& that of the coaches too), if players know they will get pinged more frequently they are less likely to try to get away with infringing.
However the ridiculous over-reaction to the non sending off of Westwood (after his swinging high tackle) has meant incidents were contact was made but not fault of tackler have being dealt with in a totally different manner and IMHO outside the realms of fairness.
[uofficiating has gone backwards under Ganson[/u'"
Did you really expect anything else?
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