It's tough Pete as you well know.

How the hell do you motivate this bunch?

Still a long way to go to reach my potential but things moving in the right direction.

no they dont & your not a supporter of my club
a supporter supports his team by going to watch them no matter how far away they live..you just are negative on anything to do qith FC.

not your club mate, belongs to all of us that support the team, was here before you, will be long after.

In fact, by not constantly blowing warm air up the club and saying what I see, some would argue I am MORE of a supporter, but I don't see a hierarchy of supporter, my Aunt has been dead over 15 years, she is still an FC supporter in the eyes of many.

For me to go to a home game it's a 12 hour round trip and costs £100 in fuel alone. For this reason I don't go very often these days either. In fact I've only been to 3 games this season. Am I not a supporter either?

your a fan not a supporter..loook it up..mate.

You go to a few games so you are a supporter.

My point was you don't have to go every week to be a supporter. I don't agree with a lot of the things Standee says but he obviously cares about the club. If he lived locally I'm sure he would go more often, but as with myself and countless other people who have moved away from Hull for whatever reason, even if it is possible to go to games it's often hard to justify the time, effort and money to go. That doesn't mean we don't care. It's easy for someone like you who lives in Hull to criticise someone for not going, but would you still go regularly if every home game took longer to get to than any away game (Catalans aside)?

I have not criticised anyone, I just don't like the way standee pulls apart the whole setup off the club, he can't possibly see the whole goings on by listening to gwillym on a Friday evening.

He is just putting his opinion across and you don't have to agree with it. People could argue they don't like the way you think everything Radford does is perfect.
As for the Fan/Supporter thing, I believe Standee has been to at least one game this year so that would make him a supporter in your eyes. Personally I think anybody who cheers the team on from the ground, the radio or the internet is just as much a supporter as anyone else.

The sad thing in all this is that we have scores of fans drifting away from the club and the game itself as the become wholly disinterested. And we have plenty of those who still go and follow the team arguing among themselves as they filter into pro/anti Radford groups.

I don't see good in everything Radders does, I've just posted I don't want another coach sacked so early, as in have said before I didn't want Gentle sacked, & standee is a bloke to want it to go wrong for Radders to gloat & say told you so, & this would be wrong in my eyes, I have always said Miller isn't good enough for hull but I would have loved it & have posted in the past for him to prove me wrong as this would have been good for our club, but I've never come on this forum & said told you his rubbish to gloat because I am a fan & a supporter, & only want good for FC not players & staff to fail.

beeswax

Statistically possible I suppose............Financially impossible
Just have to come to terms that I'm not a proper supporter

So its up to you to define who is a supporter/fan/whatever now?

If I describe my situation can you let me know too? Much obliged

I (and plenty of others, I think) don't like the way people like you seek to open genital-measuring contests about who's the bestest fan, either. Standee might be a world-class anus a lot of the time, but this 'I'm a better fan than you' is every bit as irritating and condescending as his posts ever are. My Grandad stopped going this year but still watches and listens to every game, is he less of a fan now?

Also, differentiating between fan and supporter for a sporting club is both pointless and meaningless.

No, but he no longer qualifies for "supporter" status.

Ah, but he still bought his season ticket, so is he financially supporting?

As I said, it's meaningless. An absolute nonsense.

No not at all zucchini head asked me if they was a supporter, i was just replying, a supporter supports (financially) a fan is a fanatic.

And if he buys a shirt?

So poor people can't be supporters then?

think most on here are supporters but there are a few who seem to gloat when things go wrong, as supporters we all see things differently but hopefully pull in one direction,

Only if you are in the cuddle crew and wear black and whitre specs

Good post.

So that's your opinion.

As has been said, what of the fan who buys a shirt? What about the poorer fans who can't afford to support financially.

If you buy a shirt at £50 the club might see £25 of it.

A ticket bought and the club will see.....

Standee isnt poor & this is about him, i have missed games in the past through finances, but i priorotise now...& our lass sits in the dark with no food!