fair post seb

I think you talk a load of rollocks, you don't even know me, nor would I ever wish you to, your opinion of me and others is based on posting facts and valid opinions that don't meet with your approval.

That in itself makes you and the other on here whom try to impress their opinion as being the only valid ones and use belittling/bullying tactics to shout down anyone daring to have something to say other than what meets their approval pretty pathetic.
You couldn't even be bothered to read that I've said on many occasions about how passionate for the club I am, that no matter what i'll always keep coming, that I'm getting a membership next year as well as the FCLive (again), no you spout off on the back of a valid and fact based opinion.
So does that quantify me as a 'proper' supporter now or are proper supporters in your eyes only those whom buy a couple of shirts a season pass (& attend all the matches) & go to the FC events, if not, how do you quantify being a supporter of the club?


Instead of berating supporters of the club that are rightly angry & frustrated at how we are being run off the field and coached on field why not use your energies in trying to encourage and make a positive case to those whom aren't actually going to matches as to reasons why they should.

Funny that, that's just how you come across.

You post facts to suit a very transparent agenda and just because you air an opinion, that doesn't make it valid, credible, or even respected.



A lot of irony meters just hit dangerous levels with that one





Armavinit just described you as 'sad'. He didn't mention the word 'proper' in the post you quoted, or that anyone was any less of a supporter than anyone else. Just 'sad'. Probably based on ramblings like the one above, I imagine.



What, like start a childish online petition calling for a man to be sacked from his job?

EVERYBODY is frustrated. I've told you that many times, but you still choose to ignore it. You have this thought in your head that you're unable to get rid of, that some Hull fans are happy with mediocrity. Well, I've not spoke to one, or seen one post on here. WE ALL WANT MORE, WE WANT BETTER COACHING AND BETTER PERFORMANCES.

People rightly take issue with your posts because they're driven by a blind anti-Radford agenda, downright negativity and you say the same thing time and time again, usually in the form of an angry ramble like your last post. You're utterly incaple of seeing any alternative view that people put to you. Stubborn, one-eyed and close-minded - that's what's sad.

I hope that those supporters who love the club rally around it and support it any way they possibly can. After Martin Sadler's tweet this morning I suspect that it's becoming more important than ever. Time to get my passes sorted.

It's not a blind anti-Radford agenda, there is no 'right' to take objection to my posts and retort in the way you and others do. It's not negativity, it's saying exactly what the problems are because at every single turn, almost every single week the same issues crop up. This thread was about Pearson, everything I said about him was true, the problems he has created by being inept and a tight wad who thought he could fix things on the cheap, this isn't a rant when I've described what are the actualities of those things that effect our/my club.
There are so many things wrong with the club right now it's killing it slowly but surely, the fans are drifting away in their droves and yet somehow you think that you have to berate and slap down anyone daring to mention the issues. That in itself says you are accepting of the situation that you don't want others identifying exactly what the problems are on an open forum because it'll expose the club for the shambles it is and that your own opinion just follows that blind optimism and acceptance of how things are.
You are part of the cancer at the club, well done!!

You do have an anti-Radford agenda. You created a naff online petition to get him sacked.

I have every right to object to the content your posts or anyone else's, as they do mine. It's a open forum as you mention further down. If you're that sensitive, you probably shouldn't bother.

The negative drivel in your posts needs challenging. You can't write such nonsense and expect people to just accept it.



Also known as "Broken Record Syndrome".



This last paragraph really sums you up and the difficulty you have with your selective posts.

As I've written many times this season (I've even taken to writing it in capital letters to try and drive it home), NOBODY IS HAPPY, WE'RE ALL FRUSTRATED, WE ALL WANT BETTER COACHING, WE ALL WANT BETTER PERFORMANCES, WE ALL WANT BETTER DECISION MAKING FROM THE CLUB. **Apologies to everyone else about the caps, but it simply doesn't get into this guys mind.

I'll point you to earlier in the thread where I voice my discontent, as I did with the SMC fiasco, our transfer policy under Gentle and the academy merger thread. You somehow forget these and think that because I'm challenging you, that I have my head in the sand. Go and have a read through.

Twice in this thread alone, you've read something, misunderstood and then ranted about something else. I've corrected you on both. The first time where someone stated they thought Radford was a good defensive coach and didn't compare him to anyone, and you rattled off a load of stats vs Gentle to try and shoot him down. Secondly, when you were referred to as 'sad', and you felt the need to write an essay on how good a fan you are. Misunderstanding things is a second nature to you it seems.

Luckily we know the direction it will be coming from. Batten down the hatches!!

Tin hats at the ready mr mannering

m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/34344244 Just been reading this and it got me thinking. I wonder where we'll be in 16 years time. I'll be 40 and (hopefully) still going. I honestly think people need to act now to keep us heading in the right direction. I really hope that things work out for Radders and Pearson this year, otherwise I think we could be in real trouble.

m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/34344244 Just been reading this and it got me thinking. I wonder where we'll be in 16 years time. I'll be 40 and (hopefully) still going. I honestly think people need to act now to keep us heading in the right direction. I really hope that things work out for Radders and Pearson this year, otherwise I think we could be in real trouble.

Stockport's Edgeley Park ground was originally a rugby league ground built specifically for Stockport RFC, they being one of the original clubs in the great divide.

I didn't realise that. I really need to read up on the history of rugby league and where it came from. Know very little about it other than some basics!

Interesting to note that in a couple of interviews away from local based journalists Adam Pearson has stated, " We have made personal approaches to people in Hull to join the board and we need to find other individuals that are willing to invest in the squad" Before anyone says that'll be Mally Walker I don't think it will be because every time anyone askes Adam about him he says "I have approached him twice and he's just not interested" Adam always seemed to revel in the one man band approach but now it appears he is in need of some help!!

Mally Walker told him no

Pearson just interviewed on RH very downbeat.

Main points:

Bad financial situation.

Supporters who do not renew passes are killing the club. (Exact words)

Losing sponsors.

Staff being made redundant this week.

He's had to invest more money.

Gates lower than Rovers. 6,400 against Huddersfield. Free tickets given away against Catalans.

Radford works incredibly hard and is a great technical coach.

Still committed and excited about new signings, especially Pritchard.

So basically no new information. Not sure how much clearer he can make the position tbh.

Merging the academy with Rovers and continuing to employ Radford is royaly fooking this club over! Add in clubs poor commercial department, joke board, shocking coaching team and its no surprise its in a mess - a much bigger mess than when Kath and co was here imo. But Pearsons too pig headed to do anything about it and that will be the clubs downfall as far too many fans see through all the crap he peddles.

Pearson is destroying Hull FC, not the fans

Well Seb my Mum used to tell me a story about 'The boy who cried wold too often' and this is a classic case of that, because no one believed him when there really was a Wolf until it ate them all!

I think a lot of the fans think its all crap, as it has been in the past and now can't see when it isn't. Why should they anyway?

I agree that he has brought some of this on himself in many ways but more through naivety than intent. The merger is a classic example instead of saying it was a move to save cash we got all that rubbish about how there was no talent about! Hudgell continued yesterday to say it wasn't about saving money, while Adam told a few last weekend that it was.

It seems that asking for voluntary redundancies must have fallen on deaf ears then, so now the next bit unfolds. I don't know what else the bloke can say to convince people, if they want to be convinced at all.

Perhaps those who still don't believe what's happening should talk to a few of the staff instead. Getting worse by the day it appears but some won't accept it, some never will, personally I find it very worrying its going to be a long winter, with this and the continued pressure from 'The home of the Tigers' making it more and more difficult to make money. latest 'rumour' is strictly tickets only available in advance and none available on the day next year. So I'm a bit worried but as I say that's just my personal view!

Indeed. If we go tits up we can't say we weren't warned and didn't have the opportunity to help.

Fans who don't renew killing the club? Is he for real. Always backed pearson but the guy is losing the plot and will be losing more fans with idiotic statements like that.The fans have stuck with his next season will be the season bull for how long.After the leeds play off we all loved the "never again will this club come to leeds and be embarrassed,and scraping into the play offs will not be excepted "speech ( unless its 2015 and thats our main aim ). We've had the building a british based side with future internationals speech ( which means overpaying unproven players on long contracts then having to pay them off,or its 2016 and we need to look to the nrl for our recruitment).Then we got the home grown wigan approach with the club hull speech ( until we decide to merg our academy with our biggest rivals despite more lads stepping up to first grade than ever) . Throughout all these false dawns and grand statements we've turned up more times than the team. Now he pulls out his ace card "the fans who don't renew their passes are killing this club". I'm not disputing it won't have a drastic effect on the club but to lay it at the fans feet is a joke..I'd ask the question if he's been watching the same team as me. If he has it can't be to hard to see why people aren't renewing anymore. Sorry adam but this situation is down to you more than us. Best intentions? Yes. Terrible decisions? Yes Trouble ahead? Most definitely

So, despite his best intentions, you come up with a post like this?

Not knocking his comitment but its not the fans that have put us in this situation. Its largly down to the decisions he has made. Yes he put his trust is some people who never repaid that trust but those were still his decisions,not the fans. I hope and prey it all finally comes good for him but he's the man who appoints the guy in charge of recruitment and the head coach. Don't expect everyone to agree but i know i won't be the only fan upset at that comment.

Its not the fans who got the club into this mess but it seems only the fans can get it out of it.

Time to stand up and be counted. I'm in.

A bit of gratitude and possibly some humble pie on the part of the owner would be nice though.

I agree and he's p----ing every one off with his fazes he flips more than a dice .
If he wants help sell us the fans some of the club that way we have a voice even if only 5/10 percent divided over say 5000 supporters but no he's to much I'm right and you all know nowt type.
Oh before you all jump on my back I will get a pass just in hope