Not sure about it...would take a lot of PR for Judas to be accepted back into the hearts of the faithful..besides he has been pants since he left (deserted!!) us.

Told a colleague today, it is unbelievable how unlucky we are with injuries..not just any old injuries but key personnel

Think he means Danny Orr.

Is PC down south then, is Wakefield in the south ???? wrong man there...
The injury jinx at the club is unbelieveable isnt it , rarely a fringe player always a senior influence we loose isnt it

Phew...glad I got the wrong player



Yep so far this season...Calders, Horne, Long, Fitz (well thankfully only a couple of games), Orgre, Manu, Hame...

Our two h/backs managed 5 games...who would or could have called that one

What is the latest on the injury front ?

Mark O'Meley didnt look in a good way hobbling around at Wests on saturday. Would be amazed if he is ready for weekend.

I think it's already been confirmed that he's out for another 2/3 weeks at least

Would the rules allow for Webster to register as a player for the short term?

We've not had a halfback pairing for three years now.

2007 Cooke leaves, we replace him with Matthew Head. Decent player, but so injury prone that he couldn't train mos of the time.

2008 Dykes. Decent player for us when he was fit. However, he never was fully fit and missed a fair few games.

2009 Thorman. We all knew he was a stop gap signing, but nobody expected him to be that awful.

2010/11 Long. Once again an injury prone player, whos had a big injury in nearly every season for the last 10 years. Quality when fit.

I love Longy and his current injury was abit of a freak accident. It's just annoying that the management team have not signed a backup halfback throughout this time (whilst signing injury prone players), and having nobody ready from the U20's currently.

There goes my scoop then.

Is he not registered at Widnes??

How many players fulfill the role of backup sh at any SL club? Deacon at Wigan. Anybody else? The best you can hope for is a utility hooker/hb like Obst or Leuleuai or a playmaking stand-off like Briers. Berrigan might, just, fit into the first category, Horne doesn't fit into the second.

We'd have the same problem if Dobson was out - our hookers are just hookers and our options at SO are forwards.

If a player is a halfway decent SL 7, he can be first choice somewhere. If he's not that good, then is there really any value in including him in the squad? And he'd most likely be happier [iplaying[/i in the championship. I thought at the time Thorman was a decent signing as a reserve 7 (I assumed then you'd keep one of Dykes or Webster) - that is about as good as you are going to get as a back-up. In which case why not just hope for good fortune and switch Tansey/Berrigan when lady luck lets you down?

Doesn't have to be a backup SH though, a creative player at least can do a job there. Take Hudds they have a plethora of playmakers who could step in an do a decent job if needs arose.

Huddersfield are very well covered in that area; Nathan Brown has done a good job with his squad. Most team are not that lucky.

I assumed with him being Agars' assistant that his Widnes playing registration had been terminated; I must be mistaken.

I don't know either way Pudsey hence the question.

Yeah, it is that flexibility that is the key. I think it is a good idea to have two proper hbs at at 6 and 7, as you can get by with one if the other is out.

When Rovers started the 2010 season, you had two playmakers in Dobson and Cooke, with I'anson as backup. Dobson is 24(?), and doesn't have a bad injury record.

We on the other hand start the year with two injury prone halfbacks, one of whom is not a playmaker, with nobody as backup (without moving half the squad around). We're lucky that Tansey has been pretty good with ball in hand.

I haven't seen the replay but it looked to me that Manu realised Carlow had targeted Long in the line and tried to get there to protect him, just didn't quite get it right

I haven't seen the replay but it looked to me that Manu realised Carlow had targeted Long in the line and tried to get there to protect him, just didn't quite get it right

Heard you the first time!!!

Friend at work just told me it was reported on radio..the injury may not be as bad as first feared, and Long could feature in the play-offs



Did any-one else hear this report?

god i hope so

We have to get there first.