you bet we do, that was a great comeback by hull but some still want to have a dig, at HT I thought we was done, but fair play to the lads .COYH

I was gonna give your lass a go but i couldnt lower my standards that much tbh

Hope your one of them tbf, you only like it when it's going wrong pal bet you loved us for the first hour.

Zzzzzzzz boring, you not read the game thread before saying stupid stuff, you dont even make any sense, why woukd I like it when its going wrong, why woukd you not want the thousand of fickle fans to return. Your an idiot

If fans want to avoid going to support that's fine cherub, it has no affect on me whatsoever, so you can get your sock out & say told you so we are gash! We are 4th tonight so we are keeping in with a shout. Your opinion I'm an idiot, as my opinion of you is your fickle who has said to much about the club been gash, who now wants it to be proven so you can aim at your sock screaming "told you so we are gash" grow up.

Haha you had 1 or 2 many shandys "cherub" what are you going on about, you just sound stupid, I dont slag the club off, im consistent in my opinion that radfords out of his depth and we need a better coach, I dont throw personal insults at him like some, have said he seems like a decent bloke. Id prefer to be proven wrong, but after 2 seasons and this , I dont think im any closer to been so. Grow up haha thats just a complete joke coming from someone so embarrassingly childish as you

Don't drink pal, we just got different opinions on club/staff/players/fans & eachother let's agree to disagree eh.

Its down to the coach playing the more conservative one man rugby trying to get points to save his job
he has admitted in interview he sent a message in the last 20 mins to the forwards to utilize a more Ad Hoc style.
To you and i that means move the ball and start offloading.
To have any chance against Warrington we will have to play an offloading game and move them about.

Thats whatca forums all about. If radford can get them playing like they did in that last 20 consistently, win or lose , id be happy. But all this wanting them to lose and wanting radford to fail, is just bull, expecting to be entertained for my money, is not unreasonable

Fair points it's your cash, just don't think any team can entertain to the highest standard week in week out.

From the off. Give them a sniff and we won't be making another comeback like today.

Was the last 20 really down to an instruction from Radford, or did the senior players simply decide to take matters into their own hands?

I agree, but the differance between our poor and good, is way way to big.

Lol........ouch that has hurt me,really it has.

Warrington are doing it and a lot of their play is based on offloading.
They are not afraid to offload the ball and if you watch them a lot of their offloads go to ground but they keep the ball alive and it moves a defense around.
The only way we will beat them is to move the ball around and attack them because its been shown that teams who move us around score a lot of points against us.

Radford got it wrong again today with our style of play for the first 60 minutes until he changed it.
The bench also was a poor selection.We would have been better having Thompson or Hadley on the bench with Feka been used on Monday against Warrinton.
Warrington would have been a good time to introduce a fresh half back like Dean or HTW and Moving Tiumavave back to centre but it looks like Tiumavave will be out anyway now yet Radford played both Dean and HTW at Doncaster today when he could have held one back for Monday.
Like others on here pleased with the win but also disappointed.
Radford got out of jail again today but i really think Pearson needs to be looking now for a new coach if he wants this team to move forward and bring crowds back to the KC

According to Radford they sent the message to the players in the last 20 mins

I'm intrigued by the assumption that our recent conservative style of play is on instruction from Radford. Let's examine the evidence...

In our pre-season game and the first two games of the season we played expansive rugby and won handsomely. We're expected to believe that Radford then told the team to completely change a winning formula. This despite denials from players. And as for today, Radford said he [ipleaded[/i with the player to be more expansive. That, together with recent comments from both the coach and senior players, indicates that the conservative style of rugby has actually been [icounter[/i to instructions from the coach.

Radford has many shortcomings as a coach, but I really don't believe that instructing the team to play conservatively is one of them. Far more likely it's down to a lack of confidence in the squad.

Whats worrying is the message he gave the players before the game if true. I just dont understand it at all. Whatever the message was at 60 mins it worked, so congrsts for that

As I've put above, if you look at everything that's been said by the coaches and players over the last few weeks you don't get the feeling that Radford has asked them to play conservatively. Teams short on confidence tend to play that way by themselves, especially if they have ineffective leadership on the pitch.

Foolish to leave it so late.

His 'playing safe to get the points' strategy for the first hour almost cost him dearly. And will if he tries it again on Monday. He's got the men this season, crazy to stifle them. Christ only knows what the likes of Frank make of it all. Can this really be Radford's strategy?

And not so certain our change in the last 20 came from Radford, if I'm honest, regardless of what he said in an interview. Seems far more likely the senior players just started to take responsibility.

*Sigh*

But none of it makes sense. Why the massive crash in confidence after Catalans? It would indicate that [isomething[/i changed behind the scene.

If your theory is correct, are you saying we suddenly found our confidence after 60 mins today, I personally felt after the 2 close defeats and then his interview in hdm afterwards stating we have to get bsck to basics, thats exactly what hes done, think it caused a bit of a rift in camp, hence the widness performance, followed by changing room fiasco. Radford under pressure, played it safe in the wakefield game, continued that for 60 mins today, before sending the message out to scrap the saftey first tactics. Makes more sense to me, then the players all off a sudden finding their confidence 60 mins into a game, when getting beat 20 zip.

It makes less sense that a coach would look at our first two win and decide to completely change the way we play.

I [isuspect[/i that the players got carried away and took Cas too lightly. Losing that game they way they did dented their confidence, and that was further exacerbated by the Wigan defeat. Then the Widnes fiasco happened.

Everything that the senior players and Radford have said in public indicates that the team has not been following the game play set out by the coaching staff. Radford's description of [ihow[/i he told the players to open up today further strengthens the feeling that this has been the case. On the flip side I haven't seen a single convincing argument for Radford suddenly adopting a conservative game plan.

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