Smith was pretty anonymous in both our matches against Salford this season.

We need to be aiming higher than him.

A decent scrum half would of won us another 3/4 games. If Longy had played in some of our games even as the taped up has been he was when he joined us. He would of seen us get at least 6 points by his game mangement alone.

We need to wait and get the right man not Tim Smith but Personally I would be going all out to get Dureau if their was a sniff of him wanting to come.

So it must be Webster that's done it.

Your analogy about London is also getting tiresome. They have come close to beating Hudds amongst others this season so I'm not sure as to your point. Secondly the pitch was waterlogged as the rain belted down through the whole game. If you can cast your mind back far enough to the winter game you will recall those games were always a lottery.

Personally I don't think we are the real deal yet with or without Amith so you have one of your better chances of beating us (something you fail to do far to often)/

As for Smith, he is a real enigma. On his day he's one of the best in SL and anyone who can't see that is a fool. Problem is they are so few and far between that you get far to much of the brain explosion Smith for comfort and thats at Wakey who definitely get the best out of him. If you had a coach who could eek out the real Tim Smith he's make you a great team but I can understand why any club wouldn't want to take the risk.

Best left as an enigma player at an enigma club so to speak.

In other words, in a poor team, Smith looks good.

Incidentally, "coming close" is still not winning, and gets you the same points as an utter hammering.

I've only mentioned London twice iirc and I mentioned them because you scored less points than anyone else against them. Since this thread was about how your new half back has turned you around I thought it was relevant. I don't know how bad the weather was so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there.

Tim Smith is indeed a very good player on his day. It's a shame his day comes around about as often as Halley's Comet.

As for us not beating you very often. Well there are a few occasions over the last few years where I can remember you turning us over, but I've never thought of you as a bogey team. A quick check of the stats says that in Superleague we've won 28 and you've won 10. That's probably about what you would expect. Afaik that doesn't include 3 challenge cup victories either.

wakey fans are always the same. They get the odd win and suddenly they're challengers. vastman is the biggest idiot of the lot and spouts more cr4p than all of our rovers trolls put together. Of course he'll be back later to refute that but you only have to read back through his posting history to see I'm right

It was probably the effect of not having a game mid week

to be fair, even the day to day Wakefield fans dislike vastman.

Jesus...a half decent H/B has a good game and people clamour for us to sign him....he is crap end of.

This post does deslawson a great dis-service.

Didn't realise he was a rovers fan, sorry

Rate him or not a Sykes+smith combination is gunna get wakey around the pitch more than a Horne+miller combination will get hull.

Anyone needing an opinion on Miller, see Donny forum.

To be fair, we are 2 points behind you with a game at home against you on Sunday.
It's hardly a case of thinking we are challengers for Super League but we are clearly thinking challenging you is a possibility.

I have a lot of time for Hull, and this forum too, so I don't wish to sound disrespectful, but even if you hammer us and prove you are better, you are still only 1 place better which ever way you look at it.

So in answer to the opening poster, Smith is not the answer for Hull, but a good half back clearly is. I would imagine a Dureau or a Brough would soon change your league position.

To be fair, I was having a dig at vastman rather than wakey fans in general

Ok. As you were. Lol

The only HFC dual reg player who hasn't improved the Donny side. Never got into the game at Dewsbury kicked out on the full and couldn't keep on his feet when he tried to run with the ball. Looked to be lacking confidence so unless PC can work on him we have better in Wilkinson (ex Hull).

All this because I pointed out Smith was half decent on his day - grow up idiot.

Oh do they really and you know this how?

They do all however know you for the non entity that you are.

"To be fair" as if you have enough brain cells to know the concept

Congratulation, a well reasoned and fair response.

I was starting to believe the Hull FC stereotype peddled on here but you have restored my faith - Standee and Jake the fake LEARN.

No we are not your bogey team although I think the majority of our wins have been more recently. As for CCup victories, you're not alone in that as I don't think we have beaten SL opposition in the cup for years.

Blimey we haven't even played yet and Vasty has gone into one.



and pack in the name-calling or you won't be in here on Sunday to gloat if you do win.

you're a joke on the whole site vasty, as well we all know.

that new ground finished yet, the one you were "certain to be building"?

I've had more brain cells die today than you've ever had. No wonder everyone thinks you're a dick

Oh the hypocrisy!!!