Precious, isn't he? Never made a mistake in 2 seasons, always things outwith his control.

To me the team that loses the derby seems to come out the better in the coming games in 2011 we lost to rovers then went and won our next 3 games while rovers lost there next 2. In 2010 we beat rovers then we went and lost our next 3 games while rovers went and won there next 2. Now this year we lost to rovers and we have gone on to win 5 out of our last 6 matches and the loss was against Wigan and we gave it all against them and if we had full team we probably would have won while rovers have lost 4 of their 6 games since beating us.

We've had better weather lately also. Gentle did say we will play better when grounds harden.

There has been a huge change since the derby, and the opening of the Wakey game.

Not sure what's happened, but i like it.

And the irony of the "you're getting sacked in the morning" chant from the dobbins fans to gentle at the derby

Think Sandercock would do better at Hull than Gentle has, according to his post match interviews he's done nothing wrong it's all the refs' fault, and the weather, and the pitch, and injuries. He must be a supercoach

Don't forget to many games over Easter.

Performances have definately improved since the derby but I wouldn't say a turning point. Lose to Wire and Rovers and we are back around 8/9th.

That's true we need at least one win from the 2 wire away don't expect a win and rovers at the magic weekend well lets just say there is never anything magic about it for us.

Just need to turn up in a derby game for a change.
We are better than them so we should be beating them!

2 wins from the next 4 should be achievable

I hope so!

I couldnt take another Good Friday and to lose the momentum we have built up recently with another inept Derby display would be gut wrenching and potentially derailing!

You are right though, we should be beating them with everyone fit.

we also need to be mindful that other teams are beating sides we'd normally not expect them to, so our league position isn't [iall[/i down to us.

This is an original slant on negativity,but basically unless you win every match you're league position is affected by other teams.

Im not being negative, I am just stating a fact, would anyone have thought Widnes would beat Saints if asked at the start of the season, for example?

We're definitely improving, and we have more improvement in us.

I agree with the OP, despite our injuries...Gentle got his tactics and team selection completely wrong on Good Friday, that 1-man barge down the middle stuff was never going to beat anyone.

Pleased to say that since then he has thrown the tactics out of the window and found a style that suits us, and now that key players like Ellis and Holdsworth are back we are looking a world away from that display.

you represent the U12's on this board?

I think most who were at Wakey that day would say Shaul's try but to me in Tickle that day we had a real leader on the pitch. He influenced that game massively, something our senior players have been lacking if we're being honest.

Also, within this period we have unearthed a real star on the rugby league public at large haven't we. We haven't seen the like of Ben Crooks in our centres for a long time and he alone has been a huge plus in this purple patch. His first half try at Salford was very very 'unscorable', he made it look easy. We only won by 6 don't forget so you can thank him there. Centres of his quality at the top of his game are always going to influence games.

Not sure what the mickey taking is for here. There've been a few odd results that you wouldn't expect (Saints/Widnes, Cas/Leeds, Rovers/Wire. Rovers/Saints, Salford/Hudds) so its a fair point being made.

If you let an under 12 watch South Park you need to get supernanny in

There are odd results every season (Widnes beating Wigan last season for example) but who in their right mind will immediately think we are where we are in the table because the better teams have been beaten by the bottom teams. So we are lucky!

Pessimist or what?

It's what happens in league competitions. You could argue that Widnes/Hull or Hull R****s didn't help us but did help everyone above us. It's the same flawed mentality as "we won but the opposition were cr@p".