Well said BB.

I do agree about him drawing players in and he has got a good pair of hands too. But we don't use him properly were using him just like we did with Manu last year. Letting him just drive the ball in hoping he'll do something. Give him the ball metres just before hitting the advantage line with pace and power. Or get the ball out wide quickly and let him get a pass away.

all of the above and back him up horne/long on his shoulder

Yep, exactly what I said yesterday when people were knocking him. Even If he doesn't do a lot with the ball, he certainly does plenty off it.

But he's given them away in bad position or even worse when we are in posession, which imo is unforgivable. I bet most of his penalties are from ill discipline which he need to sort out. He needs to start taking the first few cheap shots so Longy can highlight it to the ref, and hopefully he will start getting some protection and getting us penalties instead of giving them away. At the minute refs are looking for him to kick off and players are doing everything to make him kick off.

Most of his are avoidable though - that's why they're extra frustrating when he concedes them. One for verbals 30 yards from our line on the 1st tackle v Hudders was unforgiveable. it led to their on;ly try

Didn't he concede a penalty at crusaders whilst in posession which resulted in their winning try being conceded?

I'm all for aggression but it needs to be channelled

We'd have killed for him warts and all during most games in the last two seasons!

Draws attention to his penalty's are his arguing with ref each time, thats why think he's givern more away than he has.
But don't think we use him near the line as we should as a foil ,pulling players to him and every now and again giving him the ball to .
We all now what he's capable of near the line

Shortest memories on earth.

Far far more important is our centres being able to defend a one on one, whether that may be Yeaman or Hall. That has cost us far more than anything else this season.

I like him as a player!

Correct. That and being unable to take the high ball on the wing.

It must be difficult to contain your anger when elbowed in the face by somebody who should be in jail right now.

In my opinion of course.

Agree he has anger issues but thats what makes him such an explosive player, but he doesnt get the protection he needs from the refs. Got several serious bangs to the head on friday and i heard he dint come back on because he had concussion!

and dont forget the cowards punch by lovecock in the 32nd minute on him as well.

Get off your high horses and defend him.

He's what we,ve needed in years. period

Me too...glad he is on our side and not playing against us...I reckon he will become a fans favourite in time.

Quite.

Lauaki may have some issues giving away the odd penalty, but not as many as some seem to think. The Derby was a bit of a blip where that was concerned due to Rovers tactics and the ref's inability to spot them.

Despite wishing he could be a little smarter with his aggression there's no doubt in my mind that he's a net asset to the side. Opposition teams spend a lot of time and effort trying to contain him and that allows other players more freedom to play.

Tackle busts for clarity mean a player been bounced off in the tackle and is different to clean breaks. Lauaki often pushes one man away and then gets mobbed by another 3 without making yards. That would class as a tackle bust.

TBH I think he already is. Just because there's a certain amount of frustration about one or two possibly daft pens doesn't mean that people don't like him or can't see the advantages he brings.

He has done a couple of class busts though hasn't he, do you consider his tries as that because I would, maybe wrong though

You are right, there will be times Agar puts him on knowing he will give the penalties away, however he also knows he will ruffle the opposition and potentially change a game...Training kids learns you the biggest asset you have is if the kid has aggression, you cannot teach it, it is the biggest asset the kid has, we just then teach them core skills.
I think Hame is great, my heart misses beats when he comes on because I do not know what he is going to do...priceless

His tries would be down as clean breaks. Handing Flannery off 3 times in the same break at Saints could well class as a clean break and 3 tackle busts.

He is half man, half ape I tell thee



And not just any ape he is the ultimate silverback

yes he make's mistakes but hey ho i don't half smile when he gets a head of steam up give it too em Hame thats what we have needed for a few seasons a bit of unpredictability and blood pumping excitement just loveit when it warms up a tad in the middle ....