Darren, you cannot be serious with this thread, do you really think the players aren't trying??? If we were gettin beat/hammered by big scores then i'd be worried, but come on, we've lost all but 2 games by the odd point or five, even St's with a virtual full squad only beat us by 22 point, and i've been to a lot worse when we've had great squads.
I'm getting really p!ssed off with all these threads about players not trying/couldn't care/they're lazy/and who would you like to get rid of ??
I don't believe there is one player in the team at the mo who isn't workin his backside off to get the next win and if it doesn't come in the next game or even further into the season IMHO it won't be down to lack of effort.
Just support the lads and if you think they are shlt then don't go, but just don't slag them off because things aren't going right at the mo.
what goes around comes around and it won't be long before all the moaners are singing the clubs praises again, that is until the next blip.
And for anyone who want's a dig at this post
£UCK U ALL this is my opinion and if u disagree, just ignore it and carry on moaning!!

Oh my god

TBF when have we ever taken any notice of what Garry Schofield thinks of us? We would have given up a long time ago if it was for him!!!

Here, here, at least the moaners aren't going to be there on Saturday so we should have a relatively peaceful day away from idiots slagging players and coaching staff off constantly as last Friday night!!

We are struggling to fill one coach after taking two to Saints, never mind the car will have to come out instead, but I will still be there!!!

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

However, I've seen teams putting the effort in and, in general, many of our players aren't. Look at the defensive line speed, kick chase, off the ball running and support play. These are all indicators of whether a team is giving 100% effort and they're all areas we're lacking.

agreed.. altho ur picture of the muppet is quite scary

well said that man (ian fc) to say the lads are'nt putting the effort in is ludicrous,personnally i beleive it to be poor gameplan and team orders,that the players have to stick to however boringand readable it is,,i know for a fact that when hull lose they get no support from the club and coaching staff working how to improve things and what went wrong,that is poor profesionalism just going away to lick your wounds and leaving the lads to ponder on what happened just isnt good enough,,,we need a shake up and replace our coaching staff and dare i say our coach,,,

Without an inspirational coach we will never go forward,listening to him after the Wakefield match i thought he was going to fall asleep in between his slurps of his drink.Think the team as got it,but i am afraid Mr Agar can't inspire them.Ok when we were winning but a good coach comes to the fore when the going gets tough.(Oh and a top class scrum half would help)

I've already said that the bulk of our squad is good enough to do well, though I do think certain players have had their day. That being said, we are in the position we are in because of poor coaching/tactics and, in my opinion, lack of effort from some of our players.

When it takes until 60 minutes into a derby game before the team starts to play, you know there's a problem with motivation.

I love it

thats my take on things, the squad are good enough to do reasonably well, but not quite good enough to win things. A decent coach would be getting loads more out of the limited players in our squad.

Sums it up for me i'm afraid!

They shouldn't need bloody motivating, especially not for a derby game!

especially when you consider the number of local players in our team compared to rovers

Basically my thoughts too, and I feel the lack of effort is down to poor motivation from the coach.
I was suprised when I shouted something (can't remember what though as it was heat of the moment

) at the players as they went off at half time someone told me that was a load of rubbish and shouted well played or something. I was just stood there wondering if they were watching a game where we were 22-6 down and couldnt complete a tackle to save our lives.
I really do think that a lot of fans have this 'I will give the players all my support no matter what' attitude no matter what the players do and if that wasn't the case, I feel that the board could have been pressurised into getting a new coach already. I'll shout and scream for the team all day long, but only if I feel they are showing enough effort, passion and commitment. I'm usually one the first to sing but now I find I can't be botherec. I even found myself moving to the front against St Helens and think I may do again at Salford if things are going bad

on behalf of the wildcats may i offer my sincere apologies for not rolling over for the benefit of hull



FFS these are professionals and from what i saw on friday was two very well balanced teams which could of gone either way. This is the beauty of the new set up you could go on and win your next 5 you have the players then again you could lose the next 5 as the other teams have caught up. its getting very tiresome that everytime a team gets beat by wakey its coz their team is full of non triers . hull you were just pipped live with it.

any kind of weather

Erm, I think if you looked at threads before the Wakey game, people had the same views so its not just the Wakey game people are talking about. Although that is one of the reasons. While Wakey aren't exactly a poor side, I don't think you played well against us. I feel your half backs were poor and there wasn't much else around the park. You won for two reasons. One was how committed your team is, and the fact they want to play for each other. The second reason is Brad Drew.
Any SL team that shows commitment will beat us at the moment

we were poor and just got beat, so if we had played well we would have got the win. Same with Rovers , Castleford, Salford (cup) Harlequins.

I think the only game where we couldnt have got the win is Saints away. that is why its frustrating - and is purely down to tactics and desire, both of which are lacking, and had we had both, those games above would more than likely been victories

Thats OK. You did that last year in the CC semi-final.

Me too,but at my age its now only twice a week.

Yep........must be!!!! It must be all the listening to some of the 'old boys' that is clouding my judgement........They obviously don't know what they are talking about when they start knocking the current team......and thats just the Ex-Hull players!

To quote Don Robson......"Looking around the KC at all the Black'n'Whites......i'd have taken a bloody hammer onto the pitch to beat the Robbins just to please them." !


Its very rare that I EVER knock my team.....But something needs sorting and i dont think sacking Rich Agar is a solution.

Although I agree with this post.....esspecially the 100% effort bit (you forgot to add the speed of our play of the ball.....when the tacklers havent fell asleep on us!!!!

), I'm not moaning, I'm stating a fact....what i'm seeing on the pitch. 100% effort was given in the last 20 minutes against Hull KR, in fact i'd say 110%.......Now if that enthusiasm had lasted a full 80 minutes we would've romped home with the bragging rights and 2 points! I actually enjoyed the Derby to be honest, it was a good game (2nd half anyway

). Like i've stated.....I very rarely knock my team, i've never booed my team and never will but at the moment i'm almost glad I couldn't afford a season ticket!

Feel sorry for me...I got my ticket for Salford before the Wakey game!